Why do my bass drivers shake violently listening to vinyl


Hello Gon'ers,

Help needed. I took the grills off my new Vandersteen Treo CT's recently and noticed that when listening to vinyl, the bass drivers shake violently, meaning the amount and frequency in which they travel in and out. Then I played the same pieces of music from Tidal and they were relatively calm.

Is this some kind of feedback loop causing this? Has this happened to anyone else?

Thanks!
Joe
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@erik_squires Excellent post!! 

I suspected it was dangerous. The excursion or cone travel is pretty extreme and it seems to be as you said with no spring holding back the driver. 

And, yes, I have a springy wooden floor in a second floor bedroom and a cheap Pangea audio rack.

I could try plugging the port although with the Treo's they are located on the bottom. I will absolutely look into getting a rumble filter.

Thanks all!!


@yogiboy Technics SL1210GR arm and AT VM760SLC cart. 

Arm = 12 g
Cart = 8 g
Fastener Mass = .5 g (guessed)
Compliance = 10 x 10-6 cm/Dyne  

Tonearm Resonant Frequency = 11.12 Hz
Erik is 100% right. Back in the day, rumble filters were a feature on many receivers as it was often needed for the very problem you are experiencing. I had the issue myself sometimes.
Before purchasing a rumble filter, I would first see whether changing the location of your turntable in relation to the speakers has any effect on the phenomenon you are observing. Also, the addition of some isolation to the turntable base might help the problem. You might try to suspend the Technics turntable in someway. There are “feet” available for that. I would put all this ahead of adding a rumble filter in the signal path, only because the rumble filter is not without its sonic penalties. There is no free lunch in Audio. The only other thing I would add to the discussion is that someone mentioned DC voltage as the possible culprit. That is impossible since DC by definition has no frequency. Significant DC voltage delivered to the speaker voice coil could damage it, but it is not causing the piston like movements you are observing.
Per your system pics you now seem to have the TT placed in a dormer off to the side of the left speaker.

If possible try pulling the rack out of of the dormer, just temporarily, to see if the LF feedback lessens.

DeKay