Why the truth is not in them ??

mahgister, it helps to keep in mind a lot of the criticism is coming from people with a tenuous connection with reality. Like my post, there's zero personal attacks in it yet two guys make stuff up about it, attack me personally, and one even ignores actual ad hominems directed at me and accuses me of being the one resorting to ad hominems. Unreal.

If that's how ill-equipped they are to understand clear concise prose imagine how they must struggle with your ideas. Poetry is beautiful because of the complex of inexpressible feelings and ideas it digs up. But to get complex and hard to express ideas it helps to be capable of having ideas and thinking about things. This rules them out, and so of course they get frustrated.

Most of what we're doing is frankly beyond them. Might be literally truly beyond them, as in no matter what they never will get it. Or might be beyond them merely by virtue of being too physically or mentally lazy to get up off the comfortable couch and try. Either way they're not getting it.

So don't let them get to you. To do what we do takes imagination, creativity, intelligence, and perseverance. It takes initiative. Qualities they lack. You are Michael Jordan, effortlessly performing layups. Don't be surprised or get upset when they start talking trash. Talk is all they have. Let em have their fun. We have our music. But who knows, trashing others may be the one thing that gives their lives meaning.

Most people would probably agree with The Ten Commandments for guiding principles. Those are pretty fundamental but a very good foundation to adhere by. Hence, their longevity. If you can’t, at least to some practical degree, things usually head south.

After that, things get even tougher.

To summarize:

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)1“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.2“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.3“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.4“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.5“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.6“You shall not murder.7“You shall not commit adultery.8“You shall not steal.9“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.10“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

P.S.: coveting your neighbor’s hifi is right out!!!

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Very well said.... That dont contradict any of my past posts here then i concur....

By the way these words are for me the objective foundational experience of moral imagination , and moral imagination is the only faculty or organ needed by humanity to go trough next millenium....

The moral imagination part is past the " i dont cheat you because i dont want to be cheat by you " to the " How can i love you more and in a better way? "

The future is less determined by technology than by moral imagination...

I read a novel of S-F 45 years ago and in it the writer was describing many advanced civilizations, all more advanced and powerful than the others, except the last and the more advanced, no visible technology, and pure moral imagination....

Olaf Stapledon "Last men and first men "

mahgister, it helps to keep in mind a lot of the criticism is coming from people with a tenuous connection with reality... two guys make stuff up about it, attack me personally, and one even ignores actual ad hominems directed at me and accuses me of being the one resorting to ad hominems. Unreal.....

If that’s how ill-equipped they are to understand clear concise prose imagine how they must struggle with your ideas. .... But to get complex and hard to express ideas it helps to be capable of having ideas and thinking about things. This rules them out....

Most of what we’re doing is frankly beyond them. Might be literally truly beyond them, as in no matter what they never will get it. Or might be beyond them merely by virtue of being too physically or mentally lazy to get up off the comfortable couch and try. Either way they’re not getting it.

.....To do what we do takes imagination, creativity, intelligence, and perseverance. It takes initiative. Qualities they lack.....Talk is all they have. ..... But who knows, trashing others may be the one thing that gives their lives meaning.

Someone better be careful about that "false witness" thing. That’s a lot of trash talking!

Whatever happened to taking the high road?

millercarbon i consider all people here, particularly those partaking others opinions friends, i must confess that i like to argue, but i try the best i can no to be too sarcastic, too personal, or not so friendly...

I confess also being more sensible than some, and a bit too much reactive or impetuous...  :)



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