You got to show me something more!

"I'd say that any modern composer of 'classical' (is this the not most abused vocabulary word in musicdom?) music must be extremely familiar with the compositional ideas which were formulated in this century."

Hmmm...I wonder what use a classical composer would have for an upper structure chord in the traditional harmony of classical music. I'd be most interested in hearing about any suggestions of classical composers freely using a dominant 7th chord with a +11 and 13th extension. That would really show me something!

Enjoy!
Coltrane1

"At some point in their evolution as players, musicians time and time again point to one of their most important milestones (no pun intended, if you know what I mean):

Good 1! "Embracing all worthy music as fully equal in worth and worthy of their respect without condescension nor sense of superiority."

Hmmm...Truer words have never, ever been spoken. And no other comment made by anyone to this thread, more than reflect my personal feelings. It is the reason that prompted me to initiate this thread. That being, that Jazz is far more than "Jerky music." Jazz has made a major contribution to both our society, and the world at large. Unfortunately, not enough people invest the time to aquaint themselves with it. Why is it, on average, Jazz has to travel to Japan and Europe before locating an audience that receives it with open arms/ears? Does that suggest Europeans and Japanese are more sophisticated listeners than Americans? Or, does that suggest our societies musical tastes are dictated, and overwhelmed by the economics and advertising of the music industry? Heck, even Classical music has a respectable, loyal sized following in this country.

"Good luck with your playing and growth as a musician."

Very kind of you. Thanks. I'm having fun. It's a journey, and not a destination.

Enjoy!
Coltrane1

'Trane - regarding compositional use of Jazz structures... I had a friend in HS who went on to study composition in college and one of the major ideas he was trying to bring in was using these newer structures into his composition. There's some really far out stuff that's being composed these days which fails in certain ways to fit classification. I stumble into contemporary composers from time to time and am always impressed, but I have no idea where I can read or hear about this stuff. So far I've had the most luck by picking up random ECM recordings.

Someone's got to take carl's place! It's looking like Coltrane. If you don't agree with him, he's flaming. Hey, Coltrane, opinions are like a------, we all have em and some of us are them.... ducking for cover

However, it is looking like Coltrane is able to listen and learn, unlike Carl...I think it proves for more enjoyable posts when people listen as well as speak. I think that when more diverse ideas and opinions are shared, it makes the experience much more enriching.