Eminent Technology ET-2 Tonearm Owners



Where are you? What mods have you done ?

I have been using these ET2's for over 9 years now.
I am still figuring them out and learning from them. They can be modified in so many ways. Bruce Thigpen laid down the GENIUS behind this tonearm over 20 years ago. Some of you have owned them for over 20 years !

Tell us your secrets.

New owners – what questions do you have ?

We may even be able to coax Bruce to post here. :^)

There are so many modifications that can be done.

Dressing of the wire with this arm is critical to get optimum sonics along with proper counterweight setup.

Let me start it off.

Please tell us what you have found to be the best wire for the ET-2 tonearm ? One that is pliable/doesn’t crink or curl. Whats the best way of dressing it so it doesn’t impact the arm. Through the spindle - Over the manifold - Below manifold ? What have you come up with ?
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Dover
PS The tantric yoga is no joke - stand on one leg, put the other to your ear, and you may hear a little more bottom end

Well I have to say am very impressed with your flexibility Dover. I am very happy that I run every day for my health. But I can’t even touch my toes. I guess I should start Yoga..with my wife.

Frogman – your observations are similar to mine and the reason I am still using the magnetic damping.

Here is how I am currently set up.
ET 2.5 Magnetic damping

What is not obvious in the pic is that there is actually over one inch of clearance between surface and spindle when it comes across. Can the positioning be improved ? Will try three on top of one another. I just placed three for even distribution as the spindle comes across.

I am assuming placing any magnets directly under the manifold will have a reduced effect ? I could try this with the ET 2.0.

Home depot has a large selection of various magnets.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/catalog/servlet/Search?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&keyword=magnets&Ns=None&Ntpr=1&Ntpc=1&selectedCatgry=Search+All

My wire exists at the armtube. After getting the Dynavector gauss level info about using thousands of gauss in their tonearm – these 50 (approximate) gauss magnets seem harmless enough ?

Many variables here including air psi. Different PSI’s do affect how the spindle reacts based on my direct experience and discussed here already.

Eddy Current with a floating model

My experience with the stock ET2 and 2.5 spindles – I am no scientist – is the higher the PSI the less force required with magnets and the smoother (the motion will be). I use 19 PSI. The ease with which the spindle goes through the manifold at higher PSI is obvious. Try 3 psi and 20 psi to prove this.

I have also said this before here - When my cartridge is raised and at rest – at 19 psi - I can blow on it and it will shoot across the top of the LP.

Also whether it is a 2.5 or 2.0 spindle. I would assume that the 2.0 spindle being smaller reacts more to less magnets? But the differences could be subtle?

Richard – did you have the lead slug in your spindle when you were using the magnets and was it at 12 PSI?

Cheers
I think the home depot link blew the last post up like that.:^(

Just want to clarify when I said.

Richard – did you have the lead slug in your spindle when you were using the magnets and was it at 12 PSI?

I want to recognize that you are running a custom setup spindle/manifold. My experiences have been with stock spindles 2.5 and 2.0.

Still - I assume you tried magnetic damping with the lead slug and without ?

Cheers
Chris, after looking at your picture (thanks) and after thinking about it further, would placing multiple magnets in a straight line not cause the damping to vary as the spindle "sees" additional magnets as it moves toward the rear? What I plan on trying is one single magnet on either side of the manifold, as close as possible to the manifold.

Regards.
Frogman - I have been thinking about that too. Since that pic I have them on top of one another in one pillar. Will try that out. My TT setup does not allow for magnets on both sides as the arm is on a pillar. Look forward to your observations with them on both sides.

Richard, Dover, others - based on your experience if only using the magnets on the counterweight side of the manifold - can u tell me what the most effective arrangement was. I will try various arrangement as well as one larger magnet instead of few smaller ones.
Chris
Yes various magnets tried in..,...completely original ET2 , ET2 with fixed counterweight. My manifold with and without lead slug.
All iterations also tried at wand and counterweight end.
( not both ends simultaneously )
All tests done at 12 psi
Dover, for a given resonant system, all else being equal, addition of mass will lower the resonant frequency and reduce the amplitude of this resonance.
I had a dual manifold arm on the drawing board well before I rebuilt the ET. Feel free to check with RW for confirmation.
I currently have a pseudo active dampening/mass system in the early stages of development. It doesn't use mags or conventional feedback and IMO it is elegant in its simplicity. If it works it would eliminate the lead weight.
And to miss quote the Bard just a little......

Thou doth protest too much, methinks