What's so entertaining about this thread is how "polarized" folks can become. I'll bet that back in "the day" before the growing popularity of the cassette tape, (be it pre-recorded, or the ones we did ourselves), most of us music lovers and hobbyists probably owned 8 track tape players, and a buttload of 8 track tapes? What else was there for our cars? Either that, or we were stuck listening to only AM/FM radio stations. Which wasn't so bad actually, IMHO. Then along comes the cassette tape and who could resist it? Fast forward, (no pun intended) to TODAY, with so much kick-ass, high-rez material readily available to all who are willing to go "there"...and how quickly so many folks are to bash the validity of a (once great) format. But I do agree with you halfheartedly. By todays standards, the cassette format is nothing in comparison. But it doesn't totally suck either. Which is why I think so many of us out here in "audiophileland" still hang on to our trusty old cassette decks in the first place! I can honestly say that I have not "seriously" listened to cassettes in over 20 years! Yet I still own 2000 plus. Crazy? Sure. Just a little bit. Stone age? Yeah kind of. (I admit to still dragging my wife around by her hair, carrying a club, and painting pictures of stuff on the cave walls with a burnt stick.) So I guess I AM a caveman. One who still embraces the past, even though it's not anywhere close to 24 bit/192 hz oversampling. I also own 7 friggin' cassette decks still. Geez! maybe I should have been the one doing the GEIKO insurance commercials? For whatever it's worth, I feel proud to have my connection to the past, even if I don't use my antiquated decks any longer. They still look cool, and work, and are often the source of conversation! Long live us old school, low-fi, caveman gear hoarders!! I salute you.