Wow, everything posted for sale is ''light use''??



Seems that a VERY HIGH percentage of the gear posted for sale has been lightly used with next to zero hours in a smoke free, pet free, cafeine free, oxygen free, gamma ray free home with 10 air purifiers working all at once, and operated only on Sundays between 6 and 7 am at low volume.

Notice how tubes ALWAYS have low hours on them? Man are we lucky in this hobby! Everything stays new!

It cracks me up everytime to read the postings, but it is not because it is funny.
sonicbeauty
After much discussion and haggling, I was finally able to return the product. Still, this proved to be an unbelievable waste of time not to mention the frustration of having to fight for some respect here.

This does not take away from the fact that this seller presented his product wrongfully in the first place. After numerous times I gave up trying to post a negative review as my attemps were in vain. Definitely made me question the objectivity of the whole feedback process.
Sonicbeauty, a "negative review" and "negative feedback" are two different things. Which one were you denied?

What do you guys think about the line that goes like this:

" I just took them out of the box to take these photographs."
Tpreaves, Sonicbeauty stated "feedback" on 12/21 regarding any submitted negative feedback must be *agreed to* by the other party, or nothing gets posted within the current feedback system. Why would anyone agree if they have a choice, hence the ridiculous system, and why hardly anyone has negatives in their profiles - all so that Audiogon maintains a goody-goody, trusting persona.

I'm all too familiar with Sonicbeauty's experience, and even though I ask all the right questions to reduce condition discrepancies, including all original OEM components, literature and packaging, and addressing any additional concerns to minimize surface chaffing or other shipping protections - equipment still arrives in sub-advertised condition - unaffiliated with courier handling.
My negative experiences with EBay purchases are even higher in percentage, and as Sonicbeauty stated, is a complete waste of time and energy on various levels. At least one can leave negative feedback on EBay.


Yes, this feedback situation complicates the matter. I always talk, usually through e-mails, before offering anything, trying to read between the lines of the conversation and in the item description. I also don't buy very popular stuff which, I think, more often ends up in the hands of people who are not very honest audiophiles.
Say, it is less likely perhaps to be screwed up by those who sell LAMM, VAC, Gryphon or Nottingham than by those who sell some other brands. And I mean individuals not dealers.
As for light use of equipment, some people drive hard their amps and speakers so even 2000 hours will not be light use. With players, yeah, there is another problem, they can just stop playing next day after you bought them.
For example, I have an eleven years old CEC belt drive player. After about 3000 hours I had to replace the belt, now it plays just like new but it might break any day nonetheless.