Audiophile 'Attitude'


Okay, we love our hobby: we love the music, the equipment, the esoterica, and the deranged quest for perfection the likes of which would make even the greats of classical composition shake their heads. But you've got to admit that there exists a certain 'attitude' among some of our group that can be..... difficult. Often this is sexist, arrogant, elitist, impatience, and so on. I think this would be a fertile ground for interesting stories, some humorous and some just jaw dropping. Would anyone like to share? Remember, there are many stories about those other folks outside the hobby who don't get our brilliance and force us to painfully tolerate their ignorance, I'm talking 'bout the other side: WHEN
AUDIOPHILES GO BAD!

I will gladly start: when my wife and I decided to sell our entire Vandersteen home theater (this is different tale of audiophile arrogance, btw) we started looking for a new brand and a new sound to replace my
formerly beloved Vandys. My first 'target' was Martin Logan. It just so happened that there was a ML dealership less than a mile from where I lived at the time in Champaign, IL. Wonderful I thought! So my wife and I toddled over there.

Now it should be noted that my wife has become quite an audiophile herself. She wasn't this way when we met, but she has become fairly well educated in matters of audiophillia, she has an excellent ear, and she is a brilliant woman (she is a vice president for Bank of America after all). So we choose much of our equipment together.

So we go into this ML dealership with about four CDs In hand to get a brief audition and ask to hear some MLs. Instead of going straightaway to letting us listen the salesman decides he needs to try and 'sell' us on the MLs, the very speakers we'd come to hear in the first damn place! So after tolerating his drivel for a few minutes my wife's asks a question. Instead of answering her, he answers me.... then he turns to my wife and, while pointing to that screen with holes that MLs have on so many of their speakers, he says, "now this isn't here so you can hang clothes to dry."

It honestly took me a second to realize what he had just said and I think my wife wafinally looted. After a couples seconds I said, "well, I guess we won't want these speakers then." And we walked out. We also scratched Martin Logan off of our list. No one treats my wife that way.

Okay, your turn....
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I also had an experience with David Weinhard. This was about 10 years ago when he owned Ambrosia. I was looking for a tube amp and he told me that tubes were garbage and that I should come aboard the 21 century. I recently looked at his website and he is now carrying tube gear. This guys opinion changes with the wind.
I didn't mean to start a wind storm regarding on line purchases. Most on-line companies don't have the staffing of brick and mortar stores. Nor do they have the overhead. You know, salespeople, demonstration people, people that talk with you, set up equipment so you can hear it. stores, where you can walk in and see and hear it. So, yes, there really are differences between brick and mortar stores and on-line retailers. Very low overhead and no taxes, so prices are naturally lower. this is not a level playing field for brick and motar store owners. On-line retailers take advantage of the brick and mortar stores and personnel doing their job first so you get to try it on, or hear it and then seek the lower price on line. Why do you think the price is lower in the first place? 1) no sales tax for the state (avoiding that overhead), 2) no sales people, 3) no physical stores, 4), no advertisement costs, 5) no benefits that you have to pay your staff, such as medical, dental, etc. need I say more. It is simple math and is really not fair to those hard working people. Also, many on line stores don't even have staff in your state let alone in your country. so when you find yourself saying "I need to go try on this piece of clothing, shoes, etc. or I want to go hear these bogama maximus speakers" and you find that there are no stores near you where you can do this. Don't complain, because you know why. It is also the fault of the manufacturers that allow their stuff to be sold on line also. So there is much blame to pass around. But the big bucks saved are avoidance of state taxes (this hurts your state and eliminates much needed resources) and the overhead that brick and mortar stores must pay that on line retailers don't. I guess maybe it is just me. But I will save a little longer and spend at my neighborhood stores to keep my favorite stores in business. Also, I am willing to pay a little more for better service and won't pay for bad service. I have seen far too many stores and their employees out of business lately. Remember the memorable scene in Pretty Woman? where she goes back to the store on Rodeo Drive dressed to kill and shows the snotty salesperson what she purchased at a different store? that was classic!!! I guess you lost that commission didn't you?? Now a days, one really can't tell who is who and whether you have money or not just by looking at how you are dressed, skin color, etc. So, they are learning to treat everyone well. Well, not everyone as is the case here. But, like buying a car from a pushy salesperson, I know how to get up slowly and simply walk away. But rude people? oh yeah, I will write a letter.
the basic problem with dealers is the inability to assess the viability of listening to a component,as part of stereo system, and then extrapolating the result onto your stereo system.

it would seem that the most successful model is to allow consumers to listen to a component in their stereo system.

perhaps dealers would be viable if they were willing to function like a library. perhaps, charge a small fee for service.

it is unnecessary to set up stereo systems, except for turntable, arm and cartridge.

let them stock an inventory of component types from different manufacturers.
I have had the exact opposite at The Analog Room in SF Bayarea and Xtend Technologies in Cleveland.
Brian at The Analog room not only entertained my request to hear the Avalons, despite knowing my speaker budget was upto $2K, but also suggested "how to audition". He suggested that I listen to the Sonus Faber Stradivari speaker to make sure how my music should actually sound, then go down to the $2K range speakers and compare them to see, which speaker in this range "best approaches" the sound that I heard from the $$$$$ Stradivari. This made sense to me and I ended up with the Quads.
Clint in Xtend Technologies was very accommodating when I wanted to purchase a power amp. He showed me the different systems that were setup and allowed me to get my (then) existing amp with my choice of power cable. He then left me alone (for an extended period) with a system I chose so that I was comfortable doing the comparison. I wanted to hear a Marantz SA11-S2 that I told him, I would not buy, but just wanted to listen to. He demoed it to me in his reference room, with some $20K Ushers and Parasound JC-1 monos.
Of course, this alone made a pleasurable experience of buying from brick-and-mortar shop. I hope I have not jinxed myself for the next audio purchase.