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What Does Holographic Sound Like?

And how do you get there? This is an interesting question. I have finally arrived at a very satisfying level of holography in my system. But it has taken a lot of time, effort and money to get there. I wish there had been a faster, easier and less expensive way to get there. But I never found one.

Can you get to a high level of holography in your system with one pair of interconnects and one pair of speaker wires? I don't believe so. I run cables in series. I never found one pair of interconnects and speaker wires that would achieve what has taken a heck of a lot of wires and "tweaks" to achieve. Let alone all the power cords that I run in series. Although I have found one special cable that has enabled the system to reach a very high level of holography -- HiDiamond -- I still need to run cables in series for the sound to be at its holographic best.

There are many levels of holography. Each level is built incrementally with the addition of one more wire and one more "tweak". I have a lot of wires and "tweaks" in my system. Each cable and each "tweak" has added another level to the holography. Just when I thought things could not get any better -- which has happened many times -- the addition of one more cable or "tweak" enabled the system to reach a higher level yet.

Will one "loom" do the job. I never found that special "loom". To achieve the best effects I have combined cables from Synergistic Research, Bybee, ASI Liveline, Cardas, Supra and HiDiamond -- with "tweaks" too numerous to mention but featuring Bybee products and a variety of other products, many of which have the word "quantum" in their description.

The effort to arrive at this point with my system has been two-fold. Firstly, finding the right cables and "tweaks" for the system. Secondly, finding where to place them in the system for the best effects -- a process of trial and error. A lot of cables and "tweaks" had to be sold off in the process. I put "tweaks" in quotation marks because the best "tweaks" in my system have had as profound effect as the components on the sound. The same for the best of the cables, as well. For me, cables and "tweaks" are components.

Have I finally "arrived"? I have just about arrived at the best level that I can expect within my budget -- there are a couple of items on the way. In any case, I assume there are many levels beyond what my system has arrived at. But since I'll never get there I am sitting back and enjoying the music in the blissful recognition that I don't know what I am missing.

I should mention that there are many elements that are as important as holography for the sound to be satisfying, IMO. They include detail, transparency, coherence, tonality, and dynamics, among others. My system has all of these elements in good measure.

Have you had success with holographic sound in your system? If so, how did you get there?
sabai
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Mapman,
As I mentioned in an earlier post, when I visit Singapore I make a point of taking my reference CDs to the MBL showroom at the Adelphi 1 Audio Mall. They are very friendly and never rush me. The imaging and holography of my system consistently outranks the MBL systems I have auditioned. The imaging changes very subtly with movement to the left or right of axis -- there is no dramatic change -- as though one were moving to a different position in a concert hall. This is the only way I know how to give you a sense of what happens in my system. It is really uncanny. I have never heard anything like it before, and I have heard a lot of very expensive high end systems with many of the biggest names attached to the components and cabling.

Geoffkait, I have not tried the WA Quantum Chips or Belt products. I have only read about them. I have a two Kemp products in my system.
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mapman
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mbl set up really well are hard to best in the holography dept. I have heard them that way at a local dealers showroom. There was 5-6 feet to the sides and 12' or more behind them + a lot of other room acoustic tweaks in place.

The same dealers rig setup at shows I have attended were more back with the pack, largely do to less than ideal setup and room acoustics.

So results can and will vary no matter how good gear may be.
douglas_schroeder
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It needs to be stated that there WILL be a tradeoff for all this "holographic" sound; the trade off will be a loss of detail/defintion. It is impossible to keep interrupting/adding to the signal path and have an absolute increase in definition and detail.

For this reason I keep my signal path as short as possible.

The "holographic" sound can be generated readily enough via products which treat the signal, i.e. cables with networks, room correction devices, etc. I find these all to ultimately fail my Law of Efficacy as they all detract from the sound quality as much as enhance it. I fear the daisy chaining of cables would do similarly.

I have not yet, but do intend on testing this with XLR cables.
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mapman
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Look, if continuous tweaking is what floats one boat or keeps one of trouble, then by all means have at it and tweak away.

I guess I'm more of a music person. The gear tweaks, etc. is just a means to an end for me. Once I am there I am done until something changes. I find I place less and less value in esoteric tweaks these days than in past when perhaps my gear was not performing up to snuff and I did not have the knowledge and finances needed to get the fundamental things right first.
chadeffect
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I have never heard the MBL speakers sound anything but defuse and phasey. Probably a room boundary issue.

A big magnepan would get you just as far if not further IMHO. The money you save could go towards SOTA amplification.
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