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What Does Holographic Sound Like?

And how do you get there? This is an interesting question. I have finally arrived at a very satisfying level of holography in my system. But it has taken a lot of time, effort and money to get there. I wish there had been a faster, easier and less expensive way to get there. But I never found one.

Can you get to a high level of holography in your system with one pair of interconnects and one pair of speaker wires? I don't believe so. I run cables in series. I never found one pair of interconnects and speaker wires that would achieve what has taken a heck of a lot of wires and "tweaks" to achieve. Let alone all the power cords that I run in series. Although I have found one special cable that has enabled the system to reach a very high level of holography -- HiDiamond -- I still need to run cables in series for the sound to be at its holographic best.

There are many levels of holography. Each level is built incrementally with the addition of one more wire and one more "tweak". I have a lot of wires and "tweaks" in my system. Each cable and each "tweak" has added another level to the holography. Just when I thought things could not get any better -- which has happened many times -- the addition of one more cable or "tweak" enabled the system to reach a higher level yet.

Will one "loom" do the job. I never found that special "loom". To achieve the best effects I have combined cables from Synergistic Research, Bybee, ASI Liveline, Cardas, Supra and HiDiamond -- with "tweaks" too numerous to mention but featuring Bybee products and a variety of other products, many of which have the word "quantum" in their description.

The effort to arrive at this point with my system has been two-fold. Firstly, finding the right cables and "tweaks" for the system. Secondly, finding where to place them in the system for the best effects -- a process of trial and error. A lot of cables and "tweaks" had to be sold off in the process. I put "tweaks" in quotation marks because the best "tweaks" in my system have had as profound effect as the components on the sound. The same for the best of the cables, as well. For me, cables and "tweaks" are components.

Have I finally "arrived"? I have just about arrived at the best level that I can expect within my budget -- there are a couple of items on the way. In any case, I assume there are many levels beyond what my system has arrived at. But since I'll never get there I am sitting back and enjoying the music in the blissful recognition that I don't know what I am missing.

I should mention that there are many elements that are as important as holography for the sound to be satisfying, IMO. They include detail, transparency, coherence, tonality, and dynamics, among others. My system has all of these elements in good measure.

Have you had success with holographic sound in your system? If so, how did you get there?
sabai
chadeffect
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Geoff,

I tried the bowls. While they did do something it struck me as a very expensive way to get a little more sparkle in the treble and a slight change in soundstage.

I have the Schumann generator in the flavour of the RR77. It is a strange one. It can do things. But recently I noticed I doesn't do as much as it did.

It used to give me butterflies and a slight headache though. At best it cleans up the sound a little. Slightly wider soundstage if placed up high (2m) and centrally between the speakers.

Bass traps are very room dependent, but tighten bass and allow imaging to be clearer. Mixed with some diffusers can take you far. Further than those silly bowl resonators...
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mapman
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Chad,

I know you to be very open minded!

If anyone can convince PettyOfficer to like computer audio, its you!

Now the ultimate challenge.....trying to get some useful information out of Geoff....

Do take note of GEoff's warning about your brains spilling out! I did find that useful!

O-O
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bryoncunningham
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09-27-12: Geoffkait
You can't hear the sound you worked so hard to get, the sound that's actually there in the room, because your sensory perception is hurt by the objects, patterns, images, and information - books, CDs, DVDs, telephone books, etc. - in the room. What you are hearing is a distorted, compressed, noisy facsimile of what is actually coming from the speakers.
This idea is crazy. I mean that in a colloquial sense, and in a medical sense.

In a colloquial sense, this strange idea is so far outside the scope of common sense and recognized scientific explanation that it is impossible to take seriously.

In a medical sense, this strange idea could easily be considered delusional perception, i.e. the misattribution of a non-hallucinatory perception to objects or events to which they are utterly unrelated.

The cause of this strange idea, and ones like it that appear on other threads, is a mystery.

Bryon
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mapman
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"In a medical sense, this strange idea could easily be considered delusional perception, i.e. the misattribution of a non-hallucinatory perception to objects or events to which they are utterly unrelated."

That's one explanation, but I do not think so.

Another is that GEoff really knows something that others do not.

ANother is that it is a form of obfuscation.

Maybe others.....

Only Geoff knows this for sure like so many other things apparently.
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mapman
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Geoff is like the anti-Almarg (sorry to bring you into this Al). I'm not sure that is a good thing.

Al has deep technical knowledge in areas that are well documented and communicates clearly and consistently in a manner that I seem to understand. Also Al is not a vendor TTBOMK.

Geoff seems like a smart guy with some knowledge but I cannot seem to discern much useful from him. The explanations I read or hear from him make little sense. He insults and belittles me from time to time questioning my knowledge and calling me a neophobe and such but hey, that's OK, I have thick skin and have not always been nice to him or his products either. I would like to be able to understand what he is talking about before I discard what I already think I know as he suggests. I think that is a reasonable thing to ask.
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