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What Does Holographic Sound Like?

And how do you get there? This is an interesting question. I have finally arrived at a very satisfying level of holography in my system. But it has taken a lot of time, effort and money to get there. I wish there had been a faster, easier and less expensive way to get there. But I never found one.

Can you get to a high level of holography in your system with one pair of interconnects and one pair of speaker wires? I don't believe so. I run cables in series. I never found one pair of interconnects and speaker wires that would achieve what has taken a heck of a lot of wires and "tweaks" to achieve. Let alone all the power cords that I run in series. Although I have found one special cable that has enabled the system to reach a very high level of holography -- HiDiamond -- I still need to run cables in series for the sound to be at its holographic best.

There are many levels of holography. Each level is built incrementally with the addition of one more wire and one more "tweak". I have a lot of wires and "tweaks" in my system. Each cable and each "tweak" has added another level to the holography. Just when I thought things could not get any better -- which has happened many times -- the addition of one more cable or "tweak" enabled the system to reach a higher level yet.

Will one "loom" do the job. I never found that special "loom". To achieve the best effects I have combined cables from Synergistic Research, Bybee, ASI Liveline, Cardas, Supra and HiDiamond -- with "tweaks" too numerous to mention but featuring Bybee products and a variety of other products, many of which have the word "quantum" in their description.

The effort to arrive at this point with my system has been two-fold. Firstly, finding the right cables and "tweaks" for the system. Secondly, finding where to place them in the system for the best effects -- a process of trial and error. A lot of cables and "tweaks" had to be sold off in the process. I put "tweaks" in quotation marks because the best "tweaks" in my system have had as profound effect as the components on the sound. The same for the best of the cables, as well. For me, cables and "tweaks" are components.

Have I finally "arrived"? I have just about arrived at the best level that I can expect within my budget -- there are a couple of items on the way. In any case, I assume there are many levels beyond what my system has arrived at. But since I'll never get there I am sitting back and enjoying the music in the blissful recognition that I don't know what I am missing.

I should mention that there are many elements that are as important as holography for the sound to be satisfying, IMO. They include detail, transparency, coherence, tonality, and dynamics, among others. My system has all of these elements in good measure.

Have you had success with holographic sound in your system? If so, how did you get there?
sabai
sabai OP
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Mapman.
You stated, "Who gives a rat's arse what Kal says? He is entitled to his opinions as well but why would I care what he says or not specifically." I agree.

You also stated, "Sabai, Geof, I suggest we call a truce. Surely there is something more relevant we can discuss regarding holography?" I agree. Making personal comments, misquoting people you say you do not even agree with and other convoluted comments are digressions. They misdirect the discussion. This topic is about holography -- not about inappropriate digressions. If we stick to the subject in a clear and concise way no one can have any objections.
sabai OP
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I need a show of hands here. Who would agree that this post of mine that has been disallowed by the moderator is "inappropriate" or "inflammatory"? Is it any more "inappropriate" or "inflammatory" than many posts of Geoffkait that have not been disallowed?

Geeoffkait, But if you read his many reviews he [Kal Rubinson] has no such misgivings when commenting on the sound stage of the 2-channel equipment he is reviewing. Talking about the sound stage being artificial is like saying chicken noodle soup is not a chicken. I mean, whoever would claim that the sound stage of an audio system represents the actual sound stage? That is physically impossible. An audio sound stage is a facsimile, of course. This is too elementary. Adding this third element gives you an escape hatch. Tootles-style. Typical.
sabai OP
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Geoffkait,
Of course, the issue is not what Kal Rubinson of Stereophile thinks of 2-channel or 5-channel systems -- and your statement that you do not agree with what he says when you do not even report accurately what he does in fact say. In which case, why even bother pretending that what he says is important when you misquote him and then contradict him in the end? This is just another of your many diversions and convoluted ramblings.

And the issue is not that sound systems are not concert halls. The issue is holographic sound, how we perceive it and what brings us closer to it.
chadeffect
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I would also say that MIT cables seem to have a dimensional quality too.

I have only just tuned into MIT and so far they seem to be one of the better cables at depth that I have tried, while keep focus and detail.

Anyone tried other brands that do the same? Some of the higher Virtual Dynamics were not bad at this.
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mapman
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Chad,

I find different IC will effect how soundstage/imaging occurs in different ways but I do not know if one is inherently better than another in any particular case. Like most tweaks, I think it depends.

I know what you are saying about the MIT cables. Even the older less expensive ones I use (Terminator series) work well in this regard. So do the DNM Reson ICs I use in my main rig currently. I could go either way depending on mood. Tonality/timbre is the biggest difference I hear between these two. MIT does bass very well and is smooth and controlled everythere else. DNM Reson adds a little definition and clarity to the midrange, which I tend to like with my OHMs in particular. I tend to be able to follow what singers are saying easier with DNM. Both are very good. I think it depends....
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