Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil


I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

volleyguy
I did some more testing with Claritycap MR's and Duelund VSF's and am truely
stumped. I had an 6.8uf VSF on my tweeter and the soundstage was amazing, then
I ran 3.3uf, 2.7uf, and .82uf MR's in parallel(to achieve 6.8uf) and the
soundstage sucked. For the hell of it, I decided to lower my crossover freq and
threw a 10uf MR on my tweeters and the soundstage opened up just like the VSF. So it
appears using 3 caps to make up the value I needed could have been the issue. Now with the
MR's, it's more dynamic with a blacker background, with slightly better separation, but sometimes cymbals are a little
sharp. In comparison believe the VSF's may have a slight edge in tonality. Which
leads me to this, has anyone tried both the CAST's and MR's? If the CAST's have all of the
MR's characteristics with the tonality of the VSF, then we have a winner, then the only issue left is cost(ouch!)

Best of all though, my speakers measure even flatter with the larger value, I just hope I don't exponentially lower the life span of my tweeters. :D
I have parts coming and am getting on to fixing up an amp.

Anyone ever try VCap Teflons in Electronics? I am starting to weigh size and price options.

I would love Duelund but price and size might be a problem.
TempoElectric really likes them and i seem to find them very accurate in their findings.
VCaps are fabulous. I would be very curious to hear how they compare to Duelunds.

I went from Auricaps, to Mundorf Supremes to VCaps in my DAC and preamp and the VCaps were easily the biggest improvement hands down. I thought the Mundorfs were a big improvement over the Auricaps, but the improvement the VCaps made over the Mundorfs was even bigger.
I have the Vcaps plus Deuland VSF on my CDP (soon to be upgraded with CAST). Vcap & VSF are both excellent caps, they share similar sound qualities and it really comes down to personal taste. The CAST on the other hand are by far the very best, no cap that I know of comes even close the CASTÂ’s sound performance and I have tried many of top caps on the market today.

In terms of size, getting the Vcap & VSF installed on electronics will depend on the cap value. However in my case installing the VSF was easier because of their flat shape.

Cheers,