Dumb Question 36


I just bought a used Conrad Johnson PF-R pre-amp and noticed that it has no power on/off button. Am I supposed to leave the unit on all the time? Is this a common practice in audio quipment these days? This is the first unit I have ever seen with no power switch. I have heard that there is a certain protocal you should use when turning on your system and reverse the procedure when turning it off(something like turn pre-amp on first then power amp and then reverse the procdure to shut down). I presently have the amp and pre-amp plugged into the same surge protector. When I turn on the power button of the surge protector naturally both units come on--no problems--but when I turn off the power through the surge protector I get a LOUD "POP" from the speakers. This can't be right so how do I hook up the sytem to the power correctly?

Thanks.

Steve
say811
steve you've made a slight mistake here. this is dumb question 43. :o) actually, as others have said repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly: ain't really no such thing as a dumb question, only a dumb cousin. but then, if you marry your dumb cousin......

-cfb
Omit the surge protector. Odds are better than even that it's compromising the sound...especially on front end components like CDP or pre....
Check this link. The "POP" is because you're getting a "discharge" (most likely a discharge to ground) since you are in effect turning every component on AT ONCE, when you turn on your surge suppressor.

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?htech&1011323938&read&keyw&zzdlc

In the above link, I paraphrase one method of a preferred "turn on" and "Turn off" sequence. There are other ways to do it, obviously. Naturally, if you're going to use a surge suppressor or power conditioner, it should be turned on FIRST. Imagine if the unit was not in the circuit and everything was plugged into the wall (AC mains). You wouldn't plug everything in, then run down to your breaker or fuse box, then TURN ON the power from there, would you? I didn't think so!

1.) If you're going to use a power strip, or a power conditioner, plug it into AC mains (wall outlet), and turn it ON.

2.) Then start following the directions from the following link:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?htech&1011323938&read&keyw&zzdlc

2a.) Connect you interconnects.
2b.) Connect PREAMP to AC Mains and TURN ON.
2c.) Connect SOURCE(s) to AC Mains and TUNR ON.
Now, if your preamp or sources were going to discharge themselves to ground and give you speakers a POPPING noise, you're protected, since your POWER AMP is still OFF.
2d.) Connect POWER AMP to AC Mains and TURN ON.

Generally if you speakers 'POP' at this point, it's most likely an issue isloated to your power amp. You would try disconnecting the interconnects from your preamp to power amp, then try powering up the power amp. If youy get the pop, then, it's your amp. Though I'm going to bet money the POP is coming from the discharge to ground while your preamp powers up.

For this reason, it is generally recommended to turn the amp on LAST, and shut it off FIRST. That way your speakers are protected. I'm basically echoing what Sugarbrie said.