Why no threads on OTL amps?

Just for the record Tubegroover, I haven't worked in audio for almost 10 years now. I feel bad about hammering Jtinn like I did, but when you are an audiophile and you hear stuff like I heard at trade shows, it really scorches your hide. They want to herd us around like livestock to the slaughter with their hype and magazine reviews. Now, I know there are alot of great products out there and I am not going to say that 1 product is best for everyone, and am sure that you or Jtinn would feel similarly. I am just very sensitive about the revolving door of product hype based on the need to sell. Sorry If I offended anyone(Jtinn). I have no knowledge of him personally doing any of the negative things I mentioned above.

Twl: The comment you made has no foundation on fact. You heard two totally different systems with all different components and made a statement about the amplifiers. It is improper and highly incorrect (maybe subjective). I do not need to recuse myself because I do not feel I am improperly participating.

I agree with your concerns about the audio industry and feel as do you. I do not need to sell anything or hype anything just for the sake of making a buck. I like music and what gets me closer to the live experience. I enjoy helping others in that search as well. If it is profitable, at times, great, if not, great too. I think most people I deal with respect the fact that I have a decent ear and speak of what I know and have experienced, not what makes me money.

You seem to be a straight shooter and talk passionately. I respect that and look forward to your future posts.

Best Regards,

Jonathan

If I read this correctly, it seems to me that twl's criticisms of certain products being "flavors of the month" and individuals possibly "taking a bath" on resale of said products, could be accurately applied to srause's experience with the Berning, no? Hmmmm.....

Mes, I highly doubt that anyone is going to "take a bath" on a 4.5k amp when upgrading to one 4 times the price. I don't see the relevance of your post nor understand your point. Used Bernings don't seem to hang around on the market long. Berning's reputation seems to have been built on word of mouth more than marketing hype. Maybe another reason for the relative obscurity of his products to most audiophiles. His approach appears more 'take it or leave it". He doesn't need to push his products and if you weren't aware, has been around much longer than most of the other well known hi-end manufacturers with very few exceptions. The reason? low overhead and product acceptance. The guy hand makes each amp in his home. Now that's what I call sticking to basics.

Jtinn, thank you for your comments. As I mentioned in my last post I apologized for any offense that may have been taken, and said that I am not accusing you directly of doing the bad stuff that is common in the industry, as I have no basis for such. Just for the record, I am not the person that made the comments comparing the amps in different systems.That was Kris, not me. I just made a conjecture on what I thought would be the result of the comparison. From what others have said here on the forum, you are a good guy and have been helpful to others, so I defer my pointed remarks. However, the industry in general is most deserving of those pointed remarks, and I think that it has injured the hobby with its much less-than-pure approach towards its customers. I am now sorry that I included you in that group, in light of what I have now learned. Enjoy those Tenors and perhaps, one day, I'll even have the chance to try some in my system. Happy listening!