Which is better Arcam 85 or Creek 5350Se


Is it anyone out there that can tell me which integrated is better. Im looking at the Arcam A85 and the Creek 5350Se. Im using the 5.0 Soliloquy and the Cal Audio CL-20.
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I can't say much about the Arcam, but I did look at the Creek. It sounds really nice, and it looks sharp. I would think it would be a really good mate for the Soliloquys.
Believe me they are both excellent amp. Which amp is better? It depends on your taste and the rest of your system specially your speaker. for example base on my experience if you have an Epos speaker the Creek matches with it very well. and the Arcam Diva matches very well with Dynaudio and Revel speaker.
I agree it does depend on the rest of your speakers, especially speakers at Royy mentions. The Creek will sound nice with British speakers like Epos and B&W (and others). It should sound nice with Epos. Mike Creek also ownes Epos. The Arcam is also a British amp BTW.
I have 5.0's and I auditioned them with both the Creek and the Arcam, and I was unimpressed both times. I ended up with a Bryston B60R and I am very happy. Buy one used off of Audiogon. With Bryston's 20 year transferable warranty (don't even need a receipt), you can't lose, and the Bryston is a much better built machine than the Arcam and Creek. I think Stereophile's class A rating for the Creek is ridiculous. It is definitely inferior to the Bryston.
I replaced my Creek 5350SE with an LFD MIstral LE integrated much more open sound with superior transparency etc..