Which is better Arcam 85 or Creek 5350Se

The general consensus is that the Creek 5350SE is perhaps the best integrated on the market today in the $1500 price range. It has competition, such as the Arcam, the Bryston B-60, the new Perreaux (which has 160 wpc, and is available from Audio Advisor), etc., but the Creek seems to have gotten everything right. I have heard the 5350SE, but not the others I listed above. If I were forced today to downsize my current system to something smaller, and had a budget of about $1500, the 5350SE would be at the top of the list, along with 2-3 others.

I can't say much about the Arcam, but I did look at the Creek. It sounds really nice, and it looks sharp. I would think it would be a really good mate for the Soliloquys.

Believe me they are both excellent amp. Which amp is better? It depends on your taste and the rest of your system specially your speaker. for example base on my experience if you have an Epos speaker the Creek matches with it very well. and the Arcam Diva matches very well with Dynaudio and Revel speaker.

I agree it does depend on the rest of your speakers, especially speakers at Royy mentions. The Creek will sound nice with British speakers like Epos and B&W (and others). It should sound nice with Epos. Mike Creek also ownes Epos. The Arcam is also a British amp BTW.

I have 5.0's and I auditioned them with both the Creek and the Arcam, and I was unimpressed both times. I ended up with a Bryston B60R and I am very happy. Buy one used off of Audiogon. With Bryston's 20 year transferable warranty (don't even need a receipt), you can't lose, and the Bryston is a much better built machine than the Arcam and Creek. I think Stereophile's class A rating for the Creek is ridiculous. It is definitely inferior to the Bryston.