What would a 2a3 based amp. bring to the table?


Mispelling will follow, so please forgive my french. My newly acquired Virtuoso by Reference 3a, seems to be as sensitive as they claim,(92db). That fact combine with the proximity to witch I sit,(7feet) seems to point out that they would be 2a3 compatible as long as I listen without a desire for the music to go loud. I have had experiences with 300b based amps( Cary,Wavelenth), altought in a less favorable speaker situation. Before leaving beind the fairly safe territory of the 300b based amps, with its additionnal power over the 2a3, I need the imputs of peoples that have "been there,done that". What is there to gain? Is there a parametre of excellence that witch can only be attain with the 2a3? Witch one is it? Will there be compromises? Do you have an amp to recommende that stand out? I use analog and cd as sources and listen mainly to operas and the classics. Merci.
pboutin
A good 2A3 amp can give a more detailed and open sound than a 300B, but with less bottom-end warmth, and of course, less power. Most are around 3 or 4 watts. This means that you will achieve about a 98db maximum SPL at 1 meter with your speakers, before exceeding the rated power of the amp.

Alot depends on how loud you like to listen, and how much dynamics is in the music. If the music has about 10db peaks, you can listen at about 88db average. If the music has 20db peaks you only get 78db average. Many people find this quite acceptable, but some would not.

My own system has a 2 watt 45 amp for power, and 100db speakers, and I can get 103db max. I think that this is plenty for me.

Now, on to the good points. A 2A3 based amp, that is made very well, with good quality output transformers, and especially with choke loaded plates, will provide some sound that you may not have experienced before. They can be extremely beautiful sounding amps. Many people do say that the 2A3 exceeds the 300B in midrange clarity and liquidity. Also, many say that the 45 exceeds the 2A3, again, at even lower power.

High quality output transformers such as Tamura, Audio Note, and the like, are needed to reduce the high frequency roll-off associated with SET amps, so make sure that the output transformers are top quality. The speakers should provide 8 ohms minimum impedance for decent damping factor, which will alleviate the "bass bloat" commonly associated with SET amps. Careful matching and selection will greatly reduce these common maladies that afflict SET sound.

I think that your speaker's efficiency is marginal for this use, and may not play at the volumes most like. I would recommend using speakers of 98db efficiency, for a max SPL in the over 100db territory. Lowther or AER speakers are made for this application, have very high efficiency and sound great with SETs. They do not have to be front-loaded horns, to have high efficiency. Both speakers I mentioned are direct radiator types, at near 100db efficiency.
I am interested in this too. I just got some 96dB Omegas and am looking into an 8W 2a3 SET (Antique Sound Labs) which should give me 103dB SPL at my 8 foot listening position (according to the great crystalaudio.com website). I suppose this will be adequate. I have not fully decided with which amp to go with as far as sound so posts here will interest me too. Arthur
Aball, I think that amount of power will be fine with a 96db speaker. They must be using PP or parallel 2A3 to get 8 watts.
Twl pretty much covered it...from my experience, I purchased a pair of 2A3 monoblocks from Wright-Sound last year for use with my DIY speaker project. I hooked these guys up to my Thiel 3.6 speakers (86 db effieciency) expecting to hear...well I didn't know. These guys simply shoved aside the Thiels' efficency and filled the 13x18 room with more than enough volume for small scale classical instrumental and jazz. As a frame of reference: with my ML 20.6 monos and the volume knob on the preamp at 10 o'clock, the 2A3's put out the same SPL at 1 o'clock on the volume knob. I have no doubt when my single driver Lowther is ready the walls will simply shake. The website for George Wright's stuff is www.wright-sound.com\ He has a new 45 based SET that looks interesting.