Ya, know what one of the best ''things'' about Rowland gear is...is when it's paid off !!!! I have owned Rowland gear and nothing else for the past 9 years. I currenlty own and bought them new, a Model 5 amp and the Consummate pre-amp.....although I have listened to others during the years, nothing has come close to the sweet sound that these two components deliver. I know, I know mine are older units far removed from what you gentlemen are listening to, but this company makes and just as importantly, backs up ALL of their equipment with some real nice and professional people. Their equipment makes music sound REAL ! You won't regret your purchase .....