Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
I wonder why the Dodson 218 is not included in this illustrious company. It falls somewhere in between the two types of DAC's and is a superb performer.

Neal
Jazzdude-Error in my response, in my system sound is also best in low setting( around 4.3V on XLRs ) output. Your comment regarding passive preamp is interesting...
If you use preamp with normal gain low setting is the way to go. Jason remote is a killer! Excellent build quality.
Teejay-Are you using Balanced or normal version Of Accustic Arts DAC I Mk3 and did you have a chance to compare both versions?
Musical Fidelity just introduced kW DM25 DAC and kW DM25 cd transport-they are also very interesting( I only hope that build quality on them is OK!)...
Hi, Branimir, thanks for sharing your experience with your Weiss/Jason digital front end, sounds like its another world class reference and I would love to hear it one day. To answer your question, my Accustic Arts DAC1 MK3 is the normal version, not the balanced one. I did not audition both of them in my system, however an audiophile buddy did and did not believe their was a significant difference sonicly between the two versions. Do you think you might be interested in auditioning the Stealth Sextet cable between your Weiss/Jason pieces? It really is a very special cable and quite different then anything else I have ever heard in my system. It might be a great match with your gear. It would be hard for me to believe it would not sound great with any digital gear, but their is always personnal taste/synergy to take into account, but I believe the Sextet sets a new reference standard for digital cables.
Teejay-Thanks for info about Accustic Arts DAC1 Mk3, my friend is very interested about it. Stealth Varidig Sextet is very,very interesting product.Is it possible to give us little bit more of your findings about it? I need two 1m AES/EBU cables ( $3200/each ), they are expensive... I have Siltech Signature G6 Golden Ridge and I am pleased with it. Siltech also have better cable above-Golden Eagle which is also expensive. Currently I am experimenting with Acrolink 7N-DA6300 Mexcel AES/EBU( this cable is spectacular with Esoteric D-01/P-01/G-0s combo ), final results in few weeks.
BTW, infos in this thread are IMO better and more useful than most reviews( of digital gear) in mags.
Teejay,
Thanks for the info. I see there is a DCS Purcell unit available now. Would it be better to move this way, or buy a new DAC entirely and replace my 360s? If I did replace my DAC which type would you recomend a group 1 or 2? Do you consider the transport nuetral? What would I have to do to convert to DSD which the Purcell seems to do or is this important?
I have never thougt about this route until today.