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Krell questions and comments


Hi folks:

Krell is one those love it or hate it products. As a longtime tube person they are very far from my favorite form of amplification.

However, I do feel that the company's build quality and committment to making technological strides in solid state is as important as many other firms whose solid state products I feel sound much better. I have always wanted to share with you my views about the solid state jungle even though tubes are clearly superior to my ear.

The best solid state amps I've heard in terms of sonic performance are from Musical Fidelity, Pass, the new iteration of Threshold and Krell last. Each different. Each presenting it's own interpretations of music and the vision of the designers who build them.

Krell is amplifier on steroids. I've always found the sound to be full of energy and speed at everything thrown at them. Each recording is presented like running a 40 yard dash rather than the "marathon" of listening over a long period. To put it another way: Krell presents a sonic picture that is like a jolt of sugar through your body that gives you energy amd enjoyment but only for a short time. When it wears off you are left with a grating and very fatiquing sound that doesn't discriminate, the way that the best tube amplifiers do, between the minut and large differences between recordings harmonics and low level energy, midrange richness and bass that is congruent with the rest of the music and not so energetic as to supersede the rest of the audio band.

Can I tolerate Krell's sound and like it over short periods of listening? Yes! Would I welcome an example as a solid state companion to have within an audio system? Yes to that as well. Which leads to my question; Do the older Krell amplifiers have something over the newer in terms of sound such as the KSA-100 etc? Any views on how the sound has evolved from then? I have only heard recent technology.

As always thanks for reading.

D.H.
danhirsh
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krell1
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All I can really say is that I have kept my all Krell system for many more years than all my other tube and SS gear. I like the quickness and detail that the Krell has but it has alot to do with cables to. I use a AVS, KSA-300S, ref phono, and Purist Audio Proteous cables with B&W N802's. I used to own Atmashpere and VTL tube amps but when I heard what great SS could sound like in a good accousticaly treated room, I felt why mess with tubes anymore. The vinyl sounds really excellent also so that can help out a little with harshness. I have not been thinking of trading up on the new Krell though since I am plenty happy now and don't want to be sorry like many times before.
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tok20000
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I am not a huge fan of Krell amps... But I do think the KRC-HR preamp is one of the most transparent solid state preamplifiers I have yet heard. It really works well with a tube dac feeding it by letting the tubes really shine magically through it sonically. Krells reference phono is also a diamond in the rough of solid state phono. The KRC-HR + Krell's Reference Phono is a killer combo.

KF
star_sound_tech
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This thread is sure to elicit some very polarized comments.

Personally, I think that Krell has shown that it has a fairly good number of supporters and customers. These people bought the products and like them. Krell has a certain sound to it, and some will like it and some won't. However, I do think that it is a quality product that is held in considerable esteem by many audiophiles. Nothing will appeal to everyone, and Krell has a market share that is enviable to many smaller electronics makers. This shows that there is a demand for the Krell products, and it is a pretty strong demand.

As a tube guy myself, I am not going to run out and buy a Krell tomorrow. But there are many people who would. Krell has succeeded in marketing its product to the kinds of listeners who want that sound. It is a successful company. Whether you like the Krell sound or not, you can't argue that Krell has not been a force in the audiophile arena, and has done well. For these Krell customers, this sound may just be exactly what they want. Just because it may not be the exact sound that many tube guys want, does not mean that it isn't a good product.

Krell is filling a market need, and is doing it rather successfully.
sogood51
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Well, I get out and about for a good listen every now and then. I never hear anything that makes my jaw drop and want to sell off my old Ksa-250. Would I trade it in on a new Krell/Pass amp, not the models in it's power range..the price difference does not equal any or at least very little upgrade to my ear. I had mine brought up to spec. about two years ago and was told by Krell that I should be good for another 10 years. Maybe as the new digital amps come into play more in the future things will change for many of us, who knows.

Dave
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