VTL Tetrode/Triode

Cedhz: RE your experience with your audiophile friends - In this hobby I have found that the stongest opinions often seemed to be formed in the absence of listening... ;^)

As I stated above, for me it also Tetrode now (90% of the time), it just sounds better. As an aside, I understand that there is more negative feedback with tetrode (about 6dB or so), and some people (whose opinions I generally respect) claim that negative feedback is BAD, no matter how it is applied in the circuit. So I'm a little baffled why Tetrode would sound more real in my system, but it does. Go figure.

VTL doesn't specify if or how NFB is effectively changed between the two modes, though from what I've gathered about the method in which the switch is implemented vis-a-vis the output transformer and the tubes it does seem plausible that this parameter will not remain exactly constant. But I'm not technically qualified to know or judge about this, and since VTL only specifies "6dB" NFB without further elaboration, I'll assume any difference is not large or intended to be sonically consequential in and of itself (as opposed to the change in the tubes' mode of operation). FWIW, 6dB is considered to be quite a low amount of NFB, and many electronics designers - in contrast to many audiophiles - would not be so quick to condemn the usage of *any* NFB, citing tradeoffs both ways, in which design skill and execution in NFB application are more predictive of resulting sonic quality than pronouncements of absolutes. However, it can't be said whether your listening experience in tetrode is a confirmation of that philosophy, due not only to our not knowing what the actual NFB difference - if any - may be, but also because of the other factors involved (obviously) like output power and tube mode.

Update: I left off this thread around the time I switched from running Svet (SED) 6550C's to Electro Harmonix KT-88's in my MB-185's. The latest report is that I am listening more than ever in triode mode these days. The KT-88EH's seem to largely ameliorate some of the relative weaknesses of triode vs. tetrode that I outlined above.

Tetrode definitely still retains the greater bass control and wider macrodynamic envelope. But now triode suffers much less by comparison in terms of soundstage transparency and extension at the frequency extremes. Triode still retains its advantage over tetrode in naturalness of midrange tonality and the harmonic structure of the overtone series. (Let me not leave the impression that the switch to the KT's didn't also improve the sound of tetrode mode - it did.) At this point, I think the advantages that tetrode does retain are probably due mostly - maybe even entirely - to that mode's higher power.

Owners of higher-powered VTL models than mine, like Alberporter and Mejames (who also use bigger speakers and rooms than mine), have reported their unwavering preference for triode mode. Soon I plan to audition a pair of MB-250's, the one amp VTL makes which is permanently wired for triode mode only. It roughly doubles the triode power available from my 185's (meaning it equals their power in tetrode mode). If I get these, I will fit them with the KT-88EH's and test them against the 185's in tetrode to see if macrodynamic range, microdynamic detail, and bass control/punch are comparable - hopefully combined with triode's superior tonality and harmonics (at a higher cost, of course).

Oh well, my highly anticipated (by me) MB-185/tetrode vs. MB-250/triode showdown will have to wait...I decided not to buy this pair of the latter amps for other reasons. (Didn't get to audition them in the seller's system either - just his replacement Halo JC-1's.) Don't cry for me though; my amps still sound great! (In either mode :-)