Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
Branimir, I was very curious regarding your final take on the Stealth Sextet digital cables with your different digital front end gear. I thought we would have heard from you already, perhaps you just got very busy or you were not through with your audition process yet. Either way it would be a pleasure to hear your opinion regarding the Sextet cable.
Teajay, Yes, I was very busy! But, that's good... Sextet is excellent cable! I need to listen to it even more but, already I can say that it lighten up some things that I didn't hear before... Thing that I like the most about Sextet is organic/smooth presentation with excellent PRAT! I know that this sound odd but, this is what I heard! It is little bit better overall then my reference Siltech G6 Signature AES/EBU cable. I will put more comments regarding Sextet in few days...
Also, there were some changes in my office system-I currently audition Krell Resolution 3 speaker(with original stand). It is a lot better IMO then both Dynaudio Special 25 and Sonus Faber Concerto Domus that were previously in my office system. I just received Burmester 980 DAC and 033 dvd/transport for auditioning-more info in few weeks. Little hint-it is very good! Much better then my Esoteric DV50s with RBCDs... More comparison against ARC REF CD7 and Weiss Medea/Jason combo will follow soon.
Just thought I'd check in...

I'm still waiting for the CDSD. I'm positive it will arrive this week.
In the meantime I'm using the Accustic Arts Drive 1 as a transport along with the Stealth cable.

For weeks I have had the choice of using an old MSB DAC or my DCC2. The bottom line is that the MSB DAC with all the upsampling defeated and all the filters turned off is so much more enjoyable than the DCC2. The music has so much more honesty and life to it. Sure, it has *lots* of flaws. It is a very raw and unsophisticated but it is also authentic and unprocessed.
In this particular set-up the DCC2 is at best, boring. At worst, it sounds processed and smoothed over. You know that awful sound you sometimes get when a solid state amp is 'warmed up and smoothed over' in the hopes of making it sound like a good tube amp?
(Having said this, I'm sure that most audiophiles would still rather listen to my system using the DCC2.)

As you might have guessed; I've become very pessimistic about digital. The Stealth cable is, however, great. What I will probably end up doing is putting it between a decent transport and decent non-upsampling/no-filter DAC.

Having said all this, I still hope the CDSD makes me eat my words. It would sure save me lots of money if it did.
Exlibris, it sounds like you're a candidate for a higher-level Audio Note DAC. They have all the good stuff you like about the sound of your MSB, but with sophistication. They are real music-lover's DACs. The really good ones (3.1x and 4.1x families) won't save you much money, though.

Since getting mine just over two years ago I've lost any urge to go DAC hunting. I've just ordered one of their new CDT Three transports to feed it, and it looks like I'll be musically content for a long time.
Gliderguider,
I think you might be right; Audio Note and Zanden are both on my wish list of digital that I want to hear in my system. What can I do to get you to make the drive south? :-)
You could come and watch the Sens beat the crap out of the Leafs (again).