Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
2 days ago I've heard the P03-D03 Esoteric combo, it was simply amazing no relation to the outcoming X03.
Tremendous quality, authority and confidence. Not heard with the clock yet. My friend is absolutely satisfied. Yes I'd buy it if I could afford it.
Has anyone been able to compare the Teac Esoteric P03/D03 with the X-01 Limited?
my friend who had x03 replaced by the p03/d03 told me the difference was huge with capital H.
Go figure then.
And the combo has upgrade path with the clock.
Thank you KOPS, unfortunately the X-03 is not even at the sonic level of X-01, which is below sonic level of X01 Limited. If the $6K X-03 sounded just as good as the $25K P03/D-03 combo I'd be truly surprised.
Mike, in the context of reference DACs, that means no compromise DACs, I have to say that, albeit a steady improvement in red book CD technology, the differences between those reference DACs (from 1992-today) are not very large compared to differences between mid fi and lower high end DACs (from 1992-today). I think it is because even older reference DACs are no compromise designs (Wadia 9, Krell Reference 64, Accuphase DC-91). They might have older digital technology, but the analog part (which is also very important) was and is still superb. I'm not saying they are comparable or better than today's SOTA DACs, but they are at least still no slouch sonically speaking (and certainly not "outdated" in my opinion). If you spend $3000 for a Krell Reference 64 DAC (from 1992) nowadays, I think it is still a good investment.

Chris