Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
I think than Branimir has done a good job of ranking the relative improvements as you move up the Esoteric line. While its all very subjective, I have heard both the X01 and X01 LE in my system (but not at the same time), and I would say that the difference is probably more than 5%. The X-01 LE compared to the X01 has better bass extension, its smoother and more textured in the mid-range and most definitely sweeter in the top end. Now, to put all of this in perspective, the list price on the X-01 LE is $13,500, the P03/D03/G0s combo has retail price of $38,000 and the P01/D01/G0s combo has a retail price of $63,000. So, the X-01 LE besides being a great one box CDP, is a relative bargain (if you can call something that lists for $13,500 a bargain). Having said all of that, if I had an extra $63,000 (along with the money for the extra cables and power cords), and the space for a 5 box unit in my listening room and I could convince my very understanding wife - I would get the P01/D01/G0s as well. Arnie
Branimir, even if I was interested in changing my digital front end right now, I would have to wait and put some cash back in my "audio account" after my recent purchases of the Pass Labs X-100's and a Running Springs Audio Jaco line conditioner.

The reason I was seeking your and the other very knowledgeable members opinion regarding the X-01 LE was that I have not heard it in my own system and was quite curious about the type of flavor, type 1 or type 2, this player has to offer. At this point I'm still very pleased with my Ensemble reference transport and the Accoustic Arts dac 1 MK3 performance in my system. Since, I heard the X-01 LE in a system that gave me no reference point to really "hear" what the piece has to offer, I could not compare the sonics of my digital front end with the X-01 LE in any meaningful way.

Since, you have heard both digital front ends, it would be great if you compared and contrasted what the sonics are in these two different pieces.

If, I auditioned an Esoteric piece in my system it would be the X-01 LE because of the comments on this thread and it would fit into my budget in the near future.
Germanboxer, as far as I know the X-03 uses a lighter, cost engineered version of the VRDS transport mechanism, which may explain the sonic difference with UX-1 that Branimir is suggesting. As far as I know, this is the simplified/cheaper VRDS that TEAC also sells to other manufacturers, such as WADIA.
Ok, here we go...
Jordan, difference between X-03 and UX-3 is indeed very small. I will correct myself-both are around 65-70%, depending on the system. But, to my ears X-03 sounded little bit better in bass(RBCDs) then UX-3.
Since I own DV-50s,UX-3 and P-01/D-01/G-0s combo I think that I have enough Esoteric experience...
One other thing-all these ratings are with balanced(XLRs) connection. All Esoteric gear sounds better that way and most of them use differential dacs configuration.
If you do not need DVD-V/DVD-A playback then simply go for X-03 and save some money(more CDs or maybe new G-25U clock that I will try in two weeks time with UX-3).
Arnie, I agree with you 100% that X-01LTD is the best buy currently form Esoteric(Although, both X-03 and UX-3 are very good players for money also, IMO) and maybe the best buy in that price range on the market!
We shouldn't forget that build quality of all Esoteric gear is way better then most of the competition.
Teajay, difference between X-01(I did not yet audition X-01LTD in my system) and Accustic Arts Drive1/DAC1Mk3 combo?
X-01 is better in bass definition and tightness, midrange is little beat leaner then Accustic Arts(but, this is really small difference) and highs are more open on X-01 with a lot more details. All in all X-01 is excellent #1 flavor player and Accustic Arts is excellent #2 flavor combo. They are different sounding so, final choice will more depend on system synergy(Here I go again!!) and/or your personal music taste.
If any of you want little bit warmer sound from Esoteric then P-03/D-03/G-0s combo is the answer. But, I do not know why yet, this combo is sounding warmer without G-0s then with it! And to my ears sound of this combo with G-0s is definitely better and more "Esoteric like" in flavor...
Branimir, thank you for sharing your experiences...this has been very helpful!!! You are certainly the Esoteric man!! What is the cost of the G25?

Guidocorona, I was speaking of the UX-3 versus XO-3 comparison. These two units use the same transport and it appears identical digital and analog sections. The only difference is the video on the UX-3. The XO-1 uses 4 BB PCM1704 DACS/channel versus 2 BB PCM1704 DACS/channel in the UX-1, UX-3, and XO-3. I'm pretty sure I'm right on this?