Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
You may be able to find the info you are seeking on Weiss Media and Accustic by reading this thread from the very beginning.
Guidocorona, your quite right about there being much information on this thread regarding both the Accustic Arts and Wiess Media, mainly provided by Branimir who has compared both in his system.

I'm waiting to see what Branimir's opinion will be concerning the Accustic Arts DAC-1MK4, compared to the Wiess and other DACS, because I'm finding my MK4, as it keeps breaking in, to offer great sonic pleasure in my system.

Finally, Guidocorona, I was wondering what was going on with you concerning the Pass Labs XA amps, regarding if you were going to audition a pair, now that it seems that the XA-100's would power your speakers without compression or concerns over distortion and volume levels. I thought you were in the "market" to give them a go?
Teajay
, unfortunately there are no Pass dealers in Austin. I'll try to get to a Pass dealer in one of my next trips around the country. Yes I'd love to listen to an XA, but as for being in the market for an amp upgrade. . . only in my wildest dreams. . . 'cause of WAF and all She Who Must Be Obeyed entails!
Teajay, unfortunately you will have to wait till at least late June 2006 for my report about Accustic Arts DAC-1Mk4/Drive-1 combo. I will receive this combo late June/early July but, my plan was to go to my beach house with my family from 08th July till 05th August...
Any way I am looking forward to audition new DAC-1Mk4! Your findings are extremly positive and honestly I think we need something at reference level(performance wise) but, at almost normal(for high end!) price range... I hope you agree with me since all other gear is very expensive.
Currently I have Audio Research Reference CD7 player and Weiss Medea/Jason combo in my system No.2 and Krell Evolution 505 player and Esoteric D-01/P-01/G-0s combo in my system No.1 and let me tell you honestly that performance of both Audio Research and Krell players are at almost the same level as Weiss combo... Progress I guess... Also I am currently auditioning some new speaker. Just to say this it is better then my Amati Anniversario but, not as good as Krell LAT-1000. More on this speaker in August... Sorry to go little bit off topic!
Teajay, in your opinion how much better over all is new DAC-1Mk4 then Mk3 version(in % if possible)? Thanks for your answer and for your introduction to this wonderfull brand!
Guidocorona, you mean to tell me that you would let your wife get in the way of a new amp! BLASPHEMY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER! I hope you know I'm just teasing, believe me, I can relate to the WAF, that many audiophiles have to deal with one way or another.

Branimir, my opinion regarding what % better is the MK4 then the MK3 would be around 25 to 30 precent overall. The MK4 is much more dynamic and yet at the same time more "musical/organic" then the MK3. I'm still amazed at how it performs in my system, it's still improving as it breaks in, yet it's not at all euphonic, if a CD is recorded poorly, it still sounds bad, but if the performance is recorded at all in a reasonable way the MK4 will let it sound very natural indeed. At $7000.00 the MK4 is not in expensive, however based on build quality and its performance, which I think is very competitive with other much more costly DACS might make it some what of a bargain at its price point.