Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
Thanks Branimir. In reply to your answers:

“D-03/P-03/G-0s is fine match with your system.”… Why do you suggest this one instead of 01-series? Because of the W/A speakers or the VTL tube amplification? My set is IMO already a mix of #1 and #2 sound, kind of counter-balance. Or do you say this for the price difference between these series, which is huge for MC? Technically both can do MC, 01-series via max 6ch ES-LINK and 03-series via chained i-LINK (firewire).

“P-03Universal(when it become available in EU)”… I compared in July-06 the very first P-03UNI in EU with the P-03. To be honest at that moment I could not hear any difference between them. Maybe it was because of the (for me and not mine) difficult MBL Radialstrahler 101E. Anyway, maybe 01/03-series for best CD/SACD and for coming HDDVD/BR movie formats I rather buy such separate transport if possible from the same brand as the a/v-processor as long as I could integrate it in the MC-dac chain… time will tell.

“Jorma Prime? Excellent cables IMHO”… I’m surprised, you actually know this cable?! As far as I know you’re one of the very few. Great! The distributor over here ordered a IC/SP set, so we are able to listen to it in several weeks. With what gear did you hear them and what was your impression?
Rene_l,

If you don't mind my butting in here ... a number of audiophiles know this cable manufacturer, having heard Jorma Prime cables when they heard the "Swedish Statement" system at CES in January of 2006. A knockout system.

This was reinforced by Levi's review on Positive Feedback ...

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue24/jorma_prime.htm

and by Mike and Neli's ravings over at Audio Federation in Boulder, Colorado.

http://www.audiofederation.com/dealership/jormadesign/index.htm

Regards,
Metralla, thanks for your involvement. I was aware of the content behind both links. But that is almost everything you can find on the internet. JormaDesign Prime seems already a true reference in the Asian area.

Unfortunately I'm only able to eat their food, not read their language, so I don't know what they write on the many internet pages I see when I google around.
Rene_l: you can contact Jorma directly via his webpage - www.jormadesign.com. I'm sure he'll be happy to answer any questions you might have on the Prime cables. :)

Also, Audio Federation sells the Jorma range, did you try talking to them?

Good luck!
Rene,

regarding difference between 01 and 03 combos my idea is that gain in performance is not that big if you go for MC 01 setup. But, price difference is huge...

For two channel playback(RBCD/SACD) 01 combo is better IMHO.
For your setup little bit warmer sounding 03 combo is actually better choice IMO. Specially if you decide to try(or even buy) Jorma Prime ICs and speaker cables. This cables, although excellent IMHO are not the warmest cables in business...
In my system N0.1 I like 01 combo more then 03... But, honestly difference is not that big...

I also heard from reliable source that there is NO difference in RBCD and SACD playback between P-03 and P-03Universal. Great thing that you confirmed this results!

And when we are talking about favorites, here are mine:
#1 flavor
-Accustic Arts DAC1Mk4/Drive1Mk2(#1.2)
-Esoteric D-01/P-01/G-0s(#1.2)
-Esoteric D-03/P-03/G-0s(#1.5)
-Esoteric X-01LTD(#1.1)
-Krell Evolution 505(#1.6)
-Orpheus Lab Heritage/Zero D(#1.5)
-Weiss Medea/Jason(#1.4)

#2 flavor
-Audio Research Reference CD7(#2.1)
-Metronome C-2A Sig/Kallista Reference(#2.1)

Also reccommended are Accustic Arts Player1Mk2, Ayre C-5xe and all Metronome players...
I am not(sorry!) big fan of either EMMLabs or Zanden...