Tube Preamps with Bass?


I love what a tube preamp does for the mids and soundstage in my system but I hear the loss of bass slam, weight and dynamics. I was looking at the Blue Circle G-3, Lamm LL2, CJ LS-17, First Sound Presence Deluxe, Joule Elextra.

Any opinions on these preamps or any others in the $5K or so price range mated to the Pass X-250 power amp and producing the added bass slam, weight and dynamics?

Thanks and Happy Listening.
bigkidz
Bobo, If a loudspeaker is capable of the lowest audible bass, it's possible that a preamp with poor bass extension will not allow the speaker to show what it can do. I tried the Hovland HP-100 with my full range speakers. It sounded fantastic except the whole bottom octave was missing.
Bigkidz, you have an excellent short list. The deepest bass I have heard from a tube preamp was the Thor TA-1000. It was every bit as deep as a high quality solid state preamp. Unfortunately it is $10,000. Maybe $5000 used.
Of those you mentioned I think the most positive comments I've heard were for the Joule and the Blue Circle.
The Supratek mentioned above has a big following on Audiogon. If for some reason you don't like it, you could probably sell it in a heartbeat.
Thanks everyone I was comparing the tube preamps to the Pass X-1 and on the same songs the Pass has better bass as I describe above. I would like to find one of these preamps that can come as close and retian the tube mid magic. I have Talon Raven C speaker and they do go pretty low.

Happy Listening.
Bigkidz,

I second Holzhauer's Thor TA-1000 recommendation. I had a chance to audition the Thor and compare it to the Pass Labs X-1 and the ARC Reference. The Thor has tremendous bass extension, great speed, liquid midrange and great top end extension. It easily bested the Pass and the ARC Reference. I bought mine used here on Audiogon within your price range.

If you have a chance, I highly recommend auditioning one before making a decision. If you're ever in the San Francisco area, feel free to stop by for a listen.