Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
Elberoth2, yes I would agree that Arthur offers some interesting reading but have you ever heard any of his set-ups? Interesting chap for sure, I bought some Entecs from him.

Regarding the Accustic Arts Tube Dac, all I can say is WOW!

I almost bought a ARC REF CD7 which I had in my system for a few weeks and then had the opportunity to compare with a Accustic Arts MK4, not the NEW Tube dac and hands down I prefered it in my system. The ARC even had the edge as I use a ARC REF3 pre in my system so there should have been some synergy happening. The new TUBE DAC from "AA" greatly improves over the already great MK4 DAC, read Tejays review.

I've had the Reimyo CDT-777 and Oracle CD 2500 but did not keep them and that was when I had the MK4 comparing. Out of all the one's you listed the AMR 77 peaks my interest the most to try but all I heard were problems not working, noises, breaking down and not reading disc's etc. A few have said that these issues have been corrected but then I have found out that they actually have interest in the company one way or another (dealers etc.)

Teajay my unit was just getting broken-in and I made a big change, I sold my Andra's and await for my new MBL 101E's.
Dev -> can you elaborate more about the sonics of AA gear, especially compared to Ref 7 ?
Dev, you said "Regarding the Accustic Arts Tube Dac, all I can say is WOW!"

Now I know there are differences to be heard between inexpensive players and something a bit better. I'm sure there are differences to be heard between these better players and expensive players, otherwise why would anyone spend the $$$. But every player I have heard, from mid to high, shows subtle differences. I can't say I have really heard any "wow" factor, and I have heard some very good players in direct comparison.

So I am really interested in what specifically brings about the "wow" in your statement.

Thanks,
Bob
Article that Elberoth2 mentioned by Arthur Salvatore is pure crap IMO. One of the "reviewers" were Isreal Blume... Go to audioasylum and read current not very nice debate about that article...

Apparently Ken Kessler, some respected members and I are deaf since we all think that ARC REF CD7 is warm sounding player...