Buy an old Hafler DH500 used for about $350.00, and send it into to wwwmusicalconcepts.com Have the pa3b circuit board upgrade and a new set of lc500 power supply caps put in for about $600.00, and you will have an amp which will compete with the $2500.00 and up category!!! (The only downside is some fan noise if you listen @ low volumes)