CJ premier 8 - please share your comments

Fernando,before spending any further money,why can't you ask your wife if you could move the speakers out into the room for one day,just to hear the different perspective.My friend's wife was very against him doing this,since his was,also,a living room.What we(some audio buddies)did,I admit, was to take a chance,and,"PLAY WITH FIRE"at my friend's house.Over a course of a couple of listening sessions we moved the speakers out one or two inches at a time.She didn't notice until a few weeks later,and,by then it was her birthday,where my friend bought(bribed)her a beautiful bracelet.P.S.The speakers stayed further out!Sometimes being an audiophile requirs some degree of cunning,and creativity.Good luck!Oh,yeah,I forgot to mention that "begging" helps too.I've done plenty of that over the years.

ever heard the VTL 450 signatures? I've owned the premier 8 and the 450 never at the same time but I believe the 450 is the better sounding of the two especially if the 450 is the infini capacitor version it has better bass control also.

sirspeedy - good advise, thanks - yes, I have also used some guerilla tactics to have a piece at home for the system (which has a large footprint I must say). I will definitly movethe speakers to obtain additional benefits from the CJ.

I had an Audio-buddies party last night, we played with different combinations and I think white smoke appeared !!, I will look for keeping the CJ, retube both units and enjoy.

Thanks for your help (all).

Fernando

Mejames - The VTL signatures are not currently evaluated in my available options, but I must say that I have had some VTL (60-60 deluxe and triode 75) and Manley gear (Wave preamp, classic 120). I liked their sonic presenation, but decided to move along since they were quite euphonic in my system by that time.

Fernando

By the way,Fernando,and,unrelated to your amp issue,the Eclipse speakers are absolutely a fabulous choice.I really believe my friend made a mistake by selling his pair,although he won't admit it.As I'm sure you already know they have SOTA soundstage(especially further out into the room),are very good at detail,and fabulous in timbres, that sound like real music.I don't believe that there are many of today's "hot selling" speakers that outperform them,but,you probably know that already!