Tubes for a Conrad Johnson 17LS?


I just purchased a (used) CR 17LS Pre. This is not the 17LS2 version. I haven't got it home yet, but I'm already wondering if there's some experience out there with 6922 tubes. Also, are there other tube types that will work in this unit that are not 6922s? Thank you in advance, for your time!
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Hi Dave - The different types have different electrical characteristics - which is why they are different types. (For example a 6922 draws less heater voltage than a 6DJ8.) The circuit design of the 17LS creates a single 'composite' triode from the combination of the four triode sections in each channel. My suspicion is that the preamp performs better when that composite is created from tubes with similar versus different electrical properties. Other types of preamps may act differently - so the context here is the Premier 17/16/ART lineup which share a common topology. (The ACT2 is in the same family but its tube rolling opportunities are much more limited.) I do know that CJ told me they do not recommend mixing types in the same channel for those preamps.

If you've had no ill effects using different types in the same channel then that's great as you've got a broader range of combinations open to you! (Imo thats where the fun is.) Is your experience with the 17LS?
Jtimothya, thanks for the info. I take it to mean that best results would come from using the same tube type in positions 1&2 and 3&4 rather than 1&3 and 2&4, assuming you have only two tubes of the same type. My unit is a 17LS2. Dave
just a note of caution,be sure to use the shortest interconnect with this preamp as the output impedence is very high at 1000ohms,or the base will drop off quite a bit,also be sure your amp has at least an imput impedence of 20k,or you will be very unhappy.

mike,
I got a 17LS recently too. One important thing is that the stock Sovtek 6922 sucks big time. I borrowed my friend's 17LS2 stock tubes (Electro-Harmonix 6922) and they sounded so much better. Sovtek sounds too bright, harsh, and lifeless...

I eventually settled down with a quad of Amperex 6922 (White letter, USA) and I'm very pleased with them. Bass and treble performance are excellent and image is better than the EH.

My other components:
Amp: CJ11A
CDP: ARC CD1
Speakers: VA Beethoven + Sequerra T1 Tweeters
I would definetly recommend switching the stock tubes.
As Tvad posted earlier he let me borrow a set of Philips
miniwats and the difference they made was amazing.

The Philips were much quieter and had better bass
extension. The midrange was more defined and detailed.
The original Sovtek tubes sounded muddy and congested by
comparison. I would never go back to the stock tubes
on my 17LS.

Good luck
cmach