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music , mind , thought and emotion

There is not a society on this planet, nor probably ever has been, which is without some form of musical expression, often closely linked with rythm and dance. My question is less concentrated on the latter two however.
What I am pondering boils down to:
What is music and what does it do to us
Why do we differentiate music from random noise so clearly and yet can pick up certain samples within that noise as musical.
By listening to music, we find some perhaps interesting, some which we would call musical. What differentiates "musical music" from "ordinary music" and this again from "noise"?
In a more general sense again:
If music has impact on us, what is the nature of our receptors for it. Or better: Who, what are we, that music can do to us what it does?
What would be the nature of a system, which practically all of us would agree upon, that it imparts musicality best?
And finally, if such a sytem would exist, can this quality be measured?
detlof
asa
662 posts
 
Hi detlof.

I've never read Jaynes. What does he say?

Agree is fine, hello, but order arises from chaos. Stir pot, then, is good too. I didn't make the "rules"...

Hope you are well.

Mark
6chac
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Moving/stopping is a dual... so is wind/mind. You see the point...

How many path are there up the mountain?
- Let's see, a flick of the eyes is one, a heartbeat is one... Running forever is one (Forest Gump)... You do the math...

If infinite, what is one's point of reference to say "path"? Where is the center?
You're doing it all day, and still ask me? Off-center...

The Zen you have on the top of the mountain is the Zen you brought up. If you are attached to the "top", or "thought" or "matter", however, sometimes you don't see this...
- You keep come back to this, are you a Zen master? Is this because you read to much Zen book? I speak from here; I see all the times, not blind you know! Even the blinds can see; they see the darkness.

The wild geese do not intend to cast their reflection.
The water has no mind to receive their images.

I really don't want to get into the quote of yours (is it yours?). Don't want to be your mirror. The last time I paraphrase the quote still stand. Jump my friend, just jump, not up, not down, not side-by-side, just jump... (brake)

Last of all, please don't call me 6ch. It sounds like 6 channels home theatre. You don't want me to call you As_, do you? Thank you.
asa
662 posts
 
"6ch" says:

"Don't call me!"

"I really don't want...!"

"Don't you see my point!"

"Do the math!"

"You are off-center!"

"Stop calling me blind!"

"If you don't call me 6chac - this sound that "I" like, that is "me" - then I'll start calling you As_!" My "you" will call "you"!!!!!

I, I, I, YOU, YOU, YOU!!!!!!!

6ch/6chac (the "I" who wants the "ac"), didn't the deep-you see, I wasn't talking to "you"?

But look who answered...

Oh yes, 6, nearly forgot.

I call you "six channel home theatre"!!!

(the CRACK of bamboo across the back)

You can call me As_ if "you" like....

(Hmmm....)

Prescription? Take two "I" pills and call me in the morning.
unsound
7,329 posts
 
My EMOTIONal response to the direction of this thread is that the THOUGHTs presented here don't seem to MIND that there is little refererence to MUSIC. Seems like the time is upon us to don the boots and bring out the shovels.
asa
662 posts
 
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