Brubeck's 'Time Out' listeners


Been tweaking my system (mostly room and rack) and heard something for the first time.

On the 'Take Five' track, when Joe Morello goes into his drum solo, am I hearing a reflection off of Eugene Wright's bass? It's right were Wright is playing. It's ever so delayed, but *there.*

Yikes!

I never would have thought my system (with tweaks suggested by you guys) could resolve something like that.

To those who are familiar with the recording (20 bit remaster) let me know!
mprime
Sol, I think you got it - it's about finding a reference point to evaluate equipment performance.

Mbhcid, yep, got that. It is quite subtle, but I don't know enough about the sound implications editing process to have linked the two. Interesting, because the musicians who record at my parents house have fallen into two camps. One of the pianists will play a piece two or three times straight through and pick the best overall performance for the CD. Even if there are 'mistakes,' he feels it's the works overall tennor which conveys what he feels is most important. He loaths the idea of splicing different parts together. His approach may be contrasted against a certain Duo, who will perform a work many times, and often, just a segment of that piece many times. They then like to splice together the 'best' sub-performances into an overall work. While there are stylistic differences which emerge between the two recording styles, I've never listened critically to see if this technical approach leaves a fingerprint. So you've given me something to investigate further. Cool.

Best to all,
Had a listen last night and even got the girlfriend involved-her hearing is much better than mine.
To our ears the clearest "shift" is indeed at 1:50 although the weight of the piano and change could be considered to be intentional as part of the recording-maybe,maybe not.
Probably not due to the age of the recording.
During the drum solo there are again as described above quite a bit going on,certainly the odd noise which isn't clear (I had to crank the volume up quite a bit to hear what Eileen could hear)-we decided most of these were probably finger noises on the bass or something.
Anyway I certainly never quite noticed that change at 1:50 before as being a tape splice.................
Mprime,

I have the "Time Out" LP - Columbia CJ 40585 "digitally remastered directly from the original analog tapes". I listened as carefully as I could to the 2:37 --> 4:20 section. Yes, there is something that I can hear from the right-of-center position during the drums solo. I 1st thought that it was Wright playing the bass until you started this thread!
Sounds to me that the drum solo is the key piece & that Wright might not be playing the bass during the drum solo?? Hard to say but I agree that something is going on in that right-of-center position.
I talked to a friend who is more in Jazz than I am + is a Jazz/Classical guitarist. His opinion is that this Quartet is of very high caliber & that tape splicing was not done during the times this music was recorded for such a high caliber group.
Bomb,

Thanks for the thoughtful listen. When one thinks about the size of a Bass, it is a hell of a reflector! This is what I think we're hearing, and while it's a minor effect, I find it amazing our playback systems can pick it up.

Take care,