The Beatles

Shubertmaniac you know something for the life of me I just don't get Anton Bruckner. To me his music is just longer than it needs to be, read "longwinded". But there are many that love him. I'm still trying, maybe someday. I guess if you don't like the Beatles maybe someday you will. Its the creativity and the diversity of their music and the social impact they had, but maybe you weren't around then. I suspect there is more universal appeal for them than you are acknowledging "hooks" aside, but have it your way. I still think that they were the most refreshing original group ever in the rock era and it extended well beyond their music. They were a social phenomena seldom matched in any era and will always be remembered as such.

Shubertmaniac: I could not disagree with your take on The Beatles more. Ringo and George (yes Ringo) are admired among the musicians that I know (including myself). Ringo for his rock steady beat and for what he didn't play as well, ala Segovia. Harrison for his version of old standards plus the emotional content of his playing, after all he did not make his guitar actually weep? John and Paul for the odd stormy genius of their song writing team. Their music has even been memorialized by Muzak. What more could you ask for?

Yes Dekay I agree. Who ever says the Beatles weren't good musicians I say you've got to be kidding!!, Great musicians as a cohesive whole.

Always remember Beethoven didn't have to do lyrics.To most music lovers (as opposed to Audiophiles) there is a connection to your life and the music. You know as in/ I just started going with the girl who became my wife/ our first child was borne/just got the new 64'whatever. Ok,that's the time thing;I would guess no other 20th century pop group has had more artists cover their material.This is one of those: "If you have to ask/you won't get my explaination".Why do people collect coins or old cars,etc? find your own hobby,get a life you're happy with and ask why man is so greedy,why do we always have war.I doubt any Beatles 'fans here care you ain't a Beatles fan. We have choices,so do you. Make yours and be happy!

HUH?! Does anybody really still try to ride this hobby horse?? Beethoven is Beethoven, the towering genius of the classical age, the Beatles are what they are, a great pop group. Beethoven and the Beatles co-exist happily in my music collection, along with Bach and Steely Dan, Barber and the Clash, Mozart and the Beach Boys, Schubert and Talking Heads, Monteverdi and the Who, Purcell and the Pogues, Strauss and David Bowie, Bartok and Peter Gabriel, Vaugh-Williams and XTC, Faure and Aretha, Debussy and the Duke, Corigliano and Sam & Dave, etc. etc. etc. There is so much good music of all stripes out there to enjoy...we are all damn lucky to be yacking on our computers, comfortable and safe and warm and well fed, splitting hairs over musical taste and what to play on our high end audio gear! Peace on earth good will towards our fellow audiophiles - happy holidays!