The Beatles

Nice post Tomryan, All that needs saying is said. I retire from the beatles thread.

Bravo, Tom.

Nice Post Tom. It is funny to me however that no one in this thread mentions the one American group at the time that rivaled the early Beatles and later influenced them. The first group I REALLY loved and have become an icon in their own right. The Stones were the bad boys but the Beach Boys were the Beatles' real American rivals. Remember, the Stones, Yardbirds, Dave Clark Five, Hermans Hermits and the rest of those invaders' and their work weren't the inspiration for Sgt. Pepper, Pet Sounds was. I don't know how many of you Audiogoner's out there were influenced by them but I sure was. All those songs about cars, surf, sun and especially girls sure change my life to the point that I traveled 70 miles each way to surf and live that lifestyle in a few of my summer teen years. Oh, Sweet Bird of Youth, how sweet it was!

Tomryan: a few observations: how many times do you hear the Beatles on classic rock radio stations, virtually zero;how many times do you hear them on oldies stations, only the very early stuff;how many times would you expect to hear them on college or classical music stations absolutely zero. If they truly transcend all other musical artists of this era, then why are they not played more often. My children look back on the era and to them it is all throwaway music, boomer music they like to call it. "It's nice Mom but have you heard....." anything to irritate the crap out of me. Hey isn't that the very definition of rock and roll, anything musical that irritates the parents gotta be rockroll music. So in the end did the Beatles irritate your parents or did they embrace them, my parents thought they were cute, that ended it for me. Classic rock stations play Led Zeppelin...over..and...over...over(and my parents still hate them), does that mean Led Zeppelin transcends the Beatles at least rock and rollwise.ha ha ha

Well, how many times do you hear a Beatles influence in current pop music - constantly. A CD of their 27 (!!) #1 hits that's selling in the Britney / NSync range. They still have a huge sales appeal and are extremely influential in music being produced today - transcending all other musical artists of this era would be a strong statement, but hardly dismissable.

You're irritated by everything musical your kids like and define rock and roll as "anything musical that irritates the parents" - hmmmm, sounds like a nice objective starting point for evaluating the merits of the genre. For somebody who has such a distaste for it, I'm wondering why you spend as much time as you apparently do listening to or researching the playlists of Classic Rock radio stations - who, pray tell, still listens to FM at all regularly, much less a classic rock station? To hold up their playlists as evidence of the significance of a band's contributions is just irrelevant.