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Stehno...I don't really follow you, but you're absolutely right.."I cannot attribute any experiences to mechanical break-in improvement"...That's why I asked the question... I'm pretty darn certain no one can, since it doesn't exist or would be close to impossible to prove.

Nevertheless, if it definitely exists in your world, then so be it. I would argue though that your explanation clarifies the issue even less than most "snake oil" claims.

BTW, I'm still open to a better explanation, but this seems to be going nowhere, so we'll just leave this as a point of disagreemnt.

Labtec, you made the statement, "I'm pretty darn certain no one can, since it doesn't exist or would be close to impossible to prove."

Do you really think that is a credible statement? And of course, I'd love to know how you know that one.

As for proving that mechanical break-in or settling does or does not exist, simply purchase a Sistrum platform following all of their guidelines and wait 7 to 10 days.

Far from impossible to prove or dis-prove I'd say.

-IMO

My personal experience is, there is an improvement of sound quality as mechanical breakin takes hold and coupling is improved. I base this on my experience and those of many customers who I have sold and installed Starsound products..I am a dealer..Also over the course of many months I have developed an End Pin for cello and acoustic bass that greatly extends the range, dynamic structure and output of these instruments. One of the striking observations I had in testing this new pin in a cello was that after about 30 mins of play time the instrument seemed to become more coherent and structured in harmonic balance. Its as if the pin and cello became more of one device instead of two in conflict. The front face of the cello became one large sounding board with much better focus..This focus of sound and image was also evident on a recording I made of the the cello with the standard pin vs. the new pin. The recording was of the same musicican and cello in the same room playing the same music on the same day. Those in audience also heard the settlling and improvement in coherence as the pins were exchanged and the cello was played for 30 mins. The most exciting and curious observation I made in these listening tests were..That after the cello was played for an hour or so with the new end pin and we stopped and changed to the old pin...the cello had for several minutes the tone of my new pin. Again those in audience heard this happen..The cello and old pin became what they were previous and reverted back gradually to their old tone together, after 20 mins or so. Its as if the inneraction of pin and cello settle into some type of mutual relationship in transmission of vibrational patterns that are sympathetic for a certain amount of time...So what I observed in my personal hi-fi system with a multitude of variables is now reinforced with only a single variable, same cello the same musician in the same acoustic space on the same day.Vast change in sound quality and coherence was observed as each respective pin was played over a period of time with the same cello..Speakers, electonics, cables and even platforms and racking all would have their period for breakin and settling, that is my conclusion..Tom

Good-day Labtech and all listeners,

Please feel free to telephone me at your convenience and I will answer all of your questions and explain the mechanical break-in period as related to our technologies. This process is audible as most Sistrum and Audio Point owners will verify.

Should my explanation and description not provide you the answers you seek, we will be happy to refer you to one of our engineers who will provide any additional information required in order to satisfy your knowledge and understanding.

This time of the year somewhat prohibits us to produce a written document on this forum as our focus is on the Holiday rush as well as the The Show in Las Vegas coming up the first week of January.

Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding as I look forward to hearing from you.

As always – Good Listening!

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Robert from Star Sound Tech.

So...if I follow correctly...an audio stand experiences mechanical break-in which signficantly improves the sound of the equipment sitting on it after 4 days because:

1. Automobiles experience break-in
2. Cables burn-in
3. The End Pin for a Cello caused a perceived change in performance after 30 minutes.

Gotcha...all clear now...thank you!

BTW, I did some testing myself and found that my rack is not broken in yet because I haven't heard a significant difference attributable to its micronic movement. It's been almost 6 months, so it must really suck...On a lighter note, I found that my butt mechanically breaks-in to my listening chair after only 3.2 minutes. More "scientific" testing similar to you guys to follow...

Seriously, not to pick a fight, but I just think you guys are both jumping to conclusions and ignoring much more plausible and obvious factors - not the least of which is mostly subjective human factors.

For example, is it possible to play an instrument EXACTLY the same indefinitely? Perhaps the instrument sounded the same for a few minutes after changing the pin because it was being played the same. However, as more time passes, many subjective human factors could easily cause the sound to change simply by the way it was being played.

In Stehno's case, was the material being played the same, was the volume the same, was his head in exactly the same spot, was the noise floor in the house the same (i.e. A/C running, fans, appliances, cars passing in the street, dogs barking in the neighborhood, etc)? I could go on, but I think you get the point. There are many factors to consider before jumping to a conclusion - especially one that has no basis in logic, science or common sense. Does this statement/conclusion REALLY make sense -- "inneraction of pin and cello settle into some type of mutual relationship in transmission of vibrational patterns that are sympathetic for a certain amount of time"?

Since you guys like analogies...think about those people who believe in that clown who claims to speak to the dead. Just because he knows one letter in the dead relative's name, do you jump to the imediate conclusion that he is a psychic??? Or....do you ask...."If the he can give you the letter "J" in the name of your dead father, why can't he give you the "O" and the "E"?