Rogue Owners Unite


Hello Rogue Owners. The goal of this thread is to let Rogue owners discuss the tubes they have tried in their amps/preams and discuss other tweeks that have been implemented with success. It would also be nice if you'd post your system components to help us compare notes.
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Brad ,I wanted to get back to you about whats going on with the Zero`s in my system, Shit this is great . The amps seem to like the 2.75x taps on the Zero`s driving my Innersound Isis , the speakers already had great imaging ,but now there even better. The resolution is much better as well, I`ve heard more from this setup than I have ever heard before, small details are now much easier hear. You don`t have to strain to hear them, dynamics are much better as well. I have played the drums for 35 plus years, and they sound more real , more like the wood that they are. The drums have more of there own space between them than before, all the instruments now are easier to follow and each has its own place in the sound field. the bass tighten up alot, pitch is better on the lower end than before. I beleive you should look in to these as and up grade to your present system, mine are keepers. Greg
Glad to hear Drumsgreg that you like your zero's! Would I benefit more though by changing my current Odyssey Stratos amp(around 150 w/4 ohm) and going with something like the Innersound esl amp(600w/4ohm) instead of the zero's? For a little more $, I could buy a used Innersound with much more power and sell my Odyssey. What do you think? Also, if the zero's were in my system, would I not use my speaker cables?Thanks in advance for any response!
Brad , I don`t know what kind of speakers you have, so I would not know if the Innersound amp would be better. The Zero`s will reduce power in a solid state amp if you set it up to drive 16 ohms, the whole purpose was to get the amp to see an much easier load from the speaker to the amp. The Rogue sounded better driving my Innersounds at 11 ohms instead of the 4ohms taps. I talked to Mark about these and he wants me to send him the web site so he can look into it.
I posted earlier if you want to see my system and stock tubes.
I put Mullard cv4004's (12AX7's) in my Rogue 120 yesterday and so far they are a little blurry and washed out in comparison with the tubes that came with the amps from Rogue. They are a little lusher sounding but the bass is now flat when it was amazing. I slightly prefer the tone and it is sometimes more natural sounding now. I hope some of the other attributes come back over time. (does that happen? do tubes break in?) I may put the other tubes back in, time will tell.
I thought this was relevant because other people have posted raves about these tubes from Kevin Deal and this is not such a rave, but more like a step sideways from the very nice tubes Rogue put in to begin with.
BTW I did not like talking to Kevin Deal on the phone - he was very difficult to get info from.