Cryo'd outlet in power conditioner?

Maxgain: Of course, the true valid comparision would be to A/B two of the identical, brand new outlets, one cryo'ed and the other not, but this is unlikely to occur in many systems. While I don't take your enthusiasm or results lightly, even if I were to install one of these myself and had the same reaction you do, I would still wonder whether what I thought I heard could be due, at least in part, either to the mere fact that the outlet was new and newly installed (presumably any better quality new outlet might possess an advantage over an older - and therefore more oxidized - lesser quality outlet, and the installation process would probably expose freshly-bared wire ends for the in-wall connection), and/or the psychological expectation level inherent in the doing of all the work, combined with the unavoidable time delay involved. Still, I acknowledge that if, in the end, the listener is convinced something sounds better and they've gotten their money's worth, then it doesn't really matter about trying to test the change in some relatively objective way in order to help verify and quantify the difference (unless, that is, you are a listener like me, who is more comfortable psychologically in the long run if I can figure out a way to "prove" things to myself before declaring myself satisfied with what I've done). Nevertheless, I remain interested in knowing whether anybody actually has performed a real-time, side-by-side comparo between two otherwise identical outlets installed at the time, one cryo'ed and one not (or an equivalently rigorous test involving any catagory of cryo'ed part).

Yes,"daisy chain" them. That will work well.

Zaikesman, I understand your point and that's probably the type of guy I am also.

I also know from my blind A/B extensive testing that cryo'd outlets are the way to go unless one purchases the Wattgate 381. IMHO :-)

Zaikesman, I respect your thoughful and reserved approach. I am one who does not try to reinvent the wheel every year or even more often as some audiophiles do who belong to the cable or amp of the month. As far as reviewers go I like to read Moncreif/IAR as he does just what you are talking about.
Myself I am not reviewer and thus am not bound by any conventions and am free to explore and be spontanious. Yes there may be better scientific method if you are seeking explanations and quantification of results. I can toss all that baggage and do what makes my system come alive. This did and I could not be more excited about it. I have about, lets call it 20K worth of stuff sitting here,and $75 bucks makes it all work like never before. I guess I think everyone should experience it. So Zaikesman, be wild, let go this once, and forget the science and just listen to the MUSIC that comes out of your system. If I am wrong on this it's not like I am asking you to fire sale your whole system and follow me like the pied piper into a sonic netherword or worse yet some monitary black hole. I have to say that of anyone with a system that should be able to resolve something of this nature it is Albert. Compareing that thing(Albert's system)to my system is like compareing a lazer beam to a red christmas light! Albert seems to hear it and i do too. If you don't like the sound I am sure that you could sell it and not be out much. How many other audiophile boondoggles can you realy say that about.
To answer your question about if anyone has compared the cryo to the non cryo I am sure that Albert and Lak have. I am sure they would be more than happy to tell you their findings. At this point if someone took these damn things away I would cryo a river of tears! Or, it's my party and I'll cryo if I want to? You would cryo too.......

If cryo is really da bomb like you and others feel, I wonder when it will be that the first manufacturer goes to the trouble and expense of cryogenically treating every single internal part and piece of wire in a component that the treatment can be safely applied to? How about voice coils?

I'm not here to rain on anybody's cryo'ing game. As I alluded to above Maxgain, I've no doubt that for the results you perceive yourself to have gotten, this was the best bargain of your audiophile life. One thing that you should know about me, is that I treat enjoying these discussions and enjoying my system as two different things. My system will always be flawed, but hopefully the arguments I put forth here will be less so. All I'm wondering is how can you attribute with surity a large part of the difference you hear to the cryogenic treatment itself? Again, I grant you that the point tends to matter more in theory and on the page than it will in the listening room.

There is however a practical reason I even care about asking: I am definitely a good candidate for improved outlets at the very least, but knowing myself, I will feel silly getting them cryo-dipped (however inexpensively) unless I actually have a prior reason to believe that it will make my system sound better than it would have otherwise. (Hell, I'm not even sure about just the premium replacement outlet thing itself, never mind cryo'ing, but the duplex I'm using now is a 45-year-old 2-pronger with an adaptor stuck in it, so I can certainly justify doing something!) Anyway, I am open to leaps of faith as long as they're based on something reasonable, and thanks for the encouragement. :-)

I have done some research and talked to people much smarter than my self(my brother, for one, he is the guy that designed the integrated circuit chips for Motorola that made, you may have heard of it,the cell phone, possible). Cryo in my understanding changes the metal in a way that makes it more dense and more conductive. It seems to have the same effect as a single crystal in reducing the diode effect between the less dense non cryoed metal. More conductive= better flow of electrons=better performance of the circuits hooked to them!

My God you are a curmuddgen! I bet your Mom used to say to you all the time "if all those other boys jumped off a cliff, would you jump too?"

The biggest drawback I can find with cyro treating any electronic item is what seems to be the very long burn in time. I guess if I realy cared about it the same way you do I would have my old cheap 85 cent Leviton's sent out to be cry treated and then try them, but why? In reality their ARE some differences in the construction between my old stock contracrtor style outlets(which were in generally good condition, without gross signes of age) and the Hubbell's. The difference I hear is just too great for it to just be simple construction.If you have a philisophical adversion to cryo then buy the Wattgate for $150 which is said to be about as good sounding. I have heard other stock Hospital style plugs in other peoples systems do almost nothing other than give the system owner peace of mind. Why do you want to fight this so damn hard? I believe what careful listeners like Albert and other members have found and I just tagged along on their coat tails. All I know for sure is that it works! You Left brain types have it harder than us right brainers! The left brainer thing can drive me nuts sometimes. I have a fine arts degree and have been over exposed to the world of art crticism. An artist creates a work that comes from an affective state of mind. The critic comes up with alot of ivory tower, rhetoric nonsense to try to explain the asthetic and emotive intention of the artist(snotty white art babble), instead of just experiencing the beauty of the work and perhaps just enjoying it for what it is. You like music so their is a right brain aspect to your mind, go their and enjoy the beauty and quit trying to explain it. It's time to jump off the cliff with the rest of the boys!