Do CD-R's sound the same as originals

No, it isn't. And the "music" on a CD is not stored as "1's and 0's", it's stored using an encoding scheme called "Eight-to-Fourteen Modulation", or "EFM". It's not "just a bunch of 1's and 0's" on there, they're encoded, and then derived when they are read...to form those 1's and 0's. THIS IS TURNING INTO THE OLD "DIGITAL IS DIGITAL, AND BITS IS BITS" ARGUMENT...which is also a fool's argument. I DID MY HOMEWORK, AND I SUGGEST YOU ALL DO THE SAME. Why don't you do a survey of ALL the highend digital audio music production and mastering facilites, and ask them why a CD-R would sound exactly the same, and be a "perfect" copy of, a stamped CD? I'm sure they'll love to hear from you...Start with Winston Ma of FIM, and go from there.

Madisonears, Unless you have made copies yourself and compared the diffrences between diffrent brands and recording methods I don't see how you can presume that they don't exist. It would be like me saying that Krell amps are harsh and edgy sounding and having never owned one, because that's what I've heard. Carl I should send you the copy and the original, that I've made where the copy sounds a lot better, so that you can hear what I am, email me.

Let me put it another way, to see if it is clearer: digital information is discrete, not continuous. It is DIGITAL, not ANALOGOUS. Therefore errors in the information are also discrete, and not continuous. The errors are either there or they are not. If they are not, as is the case with most reasonable copying processes done with a computer, the sound will be the same as the original. If you disagree on scientific grounds, fine, please explain, unles, of course, you are trolling.

You are not a scientist, and I have no reason to debate you on this. You need to ask those who are experts in the field, as I suggest above, if you don't accept what I am telling you. The "digital is digital" argument doesn't apply here, because we are not talking about mere digital data, we are talking about the process of digital audio, which is far from simple. You ought to read a book or two on the subject, and consult a few reference uadio books. Like I said, ask Winston Ma if he thinks CD-R's represent perfect copies of a compact disc. Ask Kevin Halverson. Ask Madrigal Audio Laboratories. Ask any manufacturer of digital media or hardware. I'll not belabor this with someone who his blind to it, and who will not take me at my word. I owe you nothing here at all, Mr. incoherent.

Also, I notice that neither of you have feedback on file here at Audiogon. For me, that speaks volumes about YOUR credibility here. I need to adopt the policy that I'll not respond to those who have less positive feedback than I do. Perhaps that is where this agnaustic and negative attitude comes from (the fact that neither of you have bought or sold anything here). I wonder how that could be? What are you afraid of?