Hello Wadia Again and Agon



Something smells foul here.

If anyone remembers a thread posted here about a month ago
with the headline HELLO WADIA?

Well having tried to get ahold of Wadia to get some information regarding a repair to a Wadia poduct i own, i saved this thread in my favorites, however, upon returning to this link so that i could call the phone number that the gentleman at Wadia had given out, it said "sorry, this link must have been deleted" Now,, to me this seemed a bit strange as i have a record of EVERY SINGLE THREAD i have posted to or started, so i checked in MY PAGE and this thread is GONE! So i checked again im my pages to see if it were possible for the person originating a thread to cancel it, again, nothing.

I SURE would like an explanation on this one from someone!
mrfastguy250aol
It is interesting to learn something from the horse's mouth regarding Audiogon's thread deletion policy. I did not realize that threads would be deleted on a schedule or due to inactivity, or because of automatically detected types of content such as email addresses.

There have, of course, been more than a few threads deleted at Audiogon's option because of other reasons having to do with content that's perceived as being controversial or possibly liability-inducing. IMO, some of those threads should not have been deleted either, but when they are, no warning, explanation, opportunity to comment, or official apology is given, and I have always found that practice to be essentially disrespectful towards the participating members and the work and time they've invested contributing to the deleted thread.

An example is the recent deletion of the "America's Tragedy" thread, likely due to an exchange near its end that I was involved in, which contained potentially controversial political opinions. This thread generated hundreds of posts, and was originally started by Audiogon as a response to the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01.

As a member who has generally supported a permanently archived and uncensored forum within the legal and common-sense limits of slander, personal or group insults, or otherwise intentional malfeasance or misrepresentation, I found it particularly disturbing that I might have been partly responsible for the deletion of an epic thread, especially one freighted with such emotional and historical baggage as that. Since there have even been past instances where threads were deleted despite each post's supposedly being moderated and OK'ed before getting added to the thread, and instances where similar exchanges on separate threads have invited deletion of one thread but not the other, it's not always possible to know in advance when you may be crossing the line.

My specific question to Audiogon today is, Why do whole threads have to be deleted in cases where clearly only a certain post or posts (often the latest additions) didn't pass muster? Why can't just the offending posts be deleted while continuing to retain the archived thread?
I agree with Zaikesman.Keep the old threads archived. Delete only those posts which are offensive,etc.There could be vital information somewhere in those old threads that could be very helpful to someone. Besides, it's fun to read through old threads just to reminisce.
Oliver Stone couldn't unearth the real truth if it hit him square between his beady little eyes!

Thanks Audiogon for coming through!

I had contributed to that same thread, and I too wondered what had happened to it.
Oh yes, Mr Admin,
Whatch out!
People are getting emmm emmm frustrated???
Oh, yes! FRUSTRATED
and some of them are even more than frustrated
but most of them are still happy.

In any case just talk before pressing "DELETE".
IMHO
There was absolutely NO reason to delete that thread.
I do thank Audiogon for responding, however there MOST DEFINATELY was long term benefit to it.
Wadia themselves posted information on contacting them which even they most certainly felt it was important to give to the public about contacting them, and even admitted that there was an "issue" with contacting them.

I called Wadia today and got the secretary, after being fairly insistant and explaining that it had been a month and i had gotten no response to an email, she assured me i would get a call back today, which i did thankfully.
The tech at Wadia was as helpful as he could be both times i have spoken with him.
He was a bit concerned that i had mentioned i emailed a month ago and hadnt received a reply and asked if i could resend a copy of the email, when i told him the initial line, he found the original email in his computer.

I just had to laugh when i went back to some of the threads in my history with only 2 or 3 posts that have 2% of the usefulness of the Wadia thread.

I think Audiongons reason for deleting this thread holds the same amount of water that Wadia used that the secretary was busy doing other tasks!
Now, if i were Wadia, i wouldnt handle my whole customer base with a secretary that cant help the public at all times.
However, that being said, I am certainly not Wadia and they are certainly free to do business as they deem necessary.