Datzeel vs Asr Emitter exclusive vs Devialet

I use a Lavardin IT to drive my NS1000m's - load tolerant amp that is super smooth.
I have heard Dartzeel back to back with Lavardin Products at the previous Lavardin and Dartzeel UK importers. Both were driving Martin Coltrane speakers and I thought there was this sort of golden sheen to it that put me off them. I have heard the Dartzeelz with a few other speakers, and have heard this sheen on all occasions bar when driving some Magico speakers.
I am singularly unimpressed with the rave reviews that Dartzeel continually receive the world over!
Your thread starter is interesting, coz I was pondering on getting the Devialet 170. I have a vinyl front end, though I am told that the phono stage etc is astonishing. I am going to an open evening next week and will report back!

I love the fact that Jonathon Tinn says that:

Dartzeel is amongst the very best regardless of price. I guess Rolls Royce Silver Shadows are amongst the most luxurious cars regardless of price as well then...

likewise:
'Also, please tell us how the Devialet is a breakthrough product? Quite a bit of praise about a product you have never heard'

Not being funny, but the comment could easily have been made from an engineering perspective as opposed to a sound perspective.

Getting the best sound at a show is arguably saying best sound with loads of background noise in rooms that are not set up optimally.

I am not knocking Dartzeel, but don't go about launching into another product that you just happen not to distribute yourself.

Every importer says they sell the best stuff

What's with these "Zombie threads"(tm)?

Did Devialet finally solve those streaming problems people were complaining about ? I was following a thread on another forum where people were constantly trying 'updated' software from Devialet, but after the thread hit 80 pages, I lost interest. Now it is like 120+ pages and I keep hearing that problems are not over yet. That is like 4 or 5 years after the product has been brought to market.

It seems that reliability is the common problem with most French made gear.

Lohanimal,

How did you find the Lavardin to work with the Marten speakers which use ceramic drivers?