S7Horton, hey Seth, I really wish that you could find a way to hear the Caravelles, these are unbelievable. I've heard them a lot. For people like us with monitors, subs are not a necessity at all. They have more bass than my Silver Signature's.
Like I've said before, when you sit down and listen to them, you don't think that they're that special. They don't stand out in a way that grabs you. But then you'll look up and see that it's been three hours. They just sound so natural that you sit back and enjoy the music for what it is, like you're listening to the performers sitting in front of you.
I'm going with the Thiel 2.4's over the Caravelle's because of the trade in deal I'm getting for my Silver Sig's. If I could have worked it out, I would have gone with the Caravelle's. Remember, the Caravelle's are $4,000.00, and the stands are about $1,000.00. The pair that HiFiManiac have are even more, but well worth it because you can not only level the Caravelle's, you can also tilt them back if needed so that they're angled at your ears properly.
These speakers are the real deal, but like I said, they don't knock you off your feet. They gently take you to the concert and sit you down so that you can enjoy it. I've never heard a speaker that sounds more lifelike and natural.