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Need sub recommendations for vr4 jr's

Hope this is the right place for this thread... no listing for subs elsewhere, especially for stereo use...

I have a pair of VR4 JR's. ..and a Velodyne CT10 sub... I know the sub can be improved upon and that is my aim shortly. I can spend around $1000, new or used doesn't matter to me... I'd prefer runing two, I 'think'... wich means another $1000... later.

My idea is to gain a sub for stereo - music... I'm thinking Velodyne once more but a 12 or 15 SPL R or higher.. and perhaps TWO 12'S... but dont' really know

I'm running the little 10 via the line inputs right from the preamp... with no crossover that way it runs up to 200 hz... and actually I like the extra lift to the music the increased freq range gives... never having a REAL DECENT/GOOD sub though, perhaps I'm listening wrong...

the room is just under 14 wide, and right at 20 long, with two openings into hallways that will eventually be closed offf with the addition of doors of some type ... so not entirely closed offf yet, but wil be.

Please help, and thank you very much for sharing your experience...
blindjim
nicksgem10s
98 posts
 
Hi Jim,
I have used the Von Schweikert VRS-1 and the Martin Logan Grotto which are both in your price range at least used. They have a small footprint with very big sound. Both of these subs are very quick and I found them musical. Hope you get some more good suggestions and find what you are looking for. I ended up buying the Martin Logan Grotto and still think it is a bargain about a year later.
maineiac
649 posts
 
The VRS-1 mates extremely well with 4JRs. It is important to fully explore placement (can make a big difference), lead-shot loading, bi-wiring, and good spikes, not to mention amplification with the 4JRs, they are capable of very good bass on their own.
blindjim OP
3,092 posts
 
I do appreciate the info... hadn't thought about the van dersteens... heard the 'Gratto' but wasn't impressed too terribly... have yet to hear the VSA sub... anybody care much for the Revel 's15' ? Looking around here I noticed a couple spots that got my interest up about it. Another friend says he has a Rel and if he were to do it all over agan... he would try the ACI Titan.

... and no mention of the Sunfire subs, huh? they do seem limited in bandwidth... 100hz... I think i'd like a tad more in that area... say up to 150hz perhaps... but then maybe not. just want the dog house bass to sound as strong as the rest of the combo, or at least a mite stronger, and certainly more tuneful.

Is there a big diff between forward firing & down firing subs, impactwise? (I know the VSA can be laid over but would not wish to do that...)
snipes
119 posts
 
I have a REL Storm III and ended up taking it out of the 2-channel setup after a couple of months with my 4jrs. I loved it with my previous bass shy speakers, but with the jr's they just sounded better w/o it. There was more bass with the sub obviously, but when switched off the resulting bass sounded cleaner and faster.
kevinzoe
167 posts
 
ACI -- Force and Titan
Axiom -- EP-500 or the lower models
HSU -- several models avail.
Definitive Technology -- Supercube I, II & II subs
. . . that's all I can think of at the moment within your price range.
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