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kharma 3.2 & sub...

hello my friends....ive been reading at least two years your forum but i just signed up.....its never too late they say......:)

i would like to get some feedback about the kharma sub....i know this has been discussed before but i would like to ask some questions and hear opinions form people who actually own it....im using the 3.2 and a gryphon diablo integrated...resolutiion opus21 cd and valhalla cables......

1. people say the integration is semaless.....but this happens when they put the sub under 80hz....what about using it intil 150 or 200 hz...????

2. will i gain sth in spl or "perceived" spl....?????

3. will the woofer in kharma speaker work less with the sub in..??or it will move thesame but the sub will laso move...???if it works less maybe the mids will become sweeter as well...???

4. Do you think it worths it...???.does it fill the bottom octave..??..will i be trully full range....and bottom line....
WILL THE MUSIC BE MORE SATISFYING...???

thanx a lot guys,,,
mike
mixalis
sirspeedy70680e509
1,064 posts
 
As an admirer of the "fabulously musical" 3.2's,and having heard them loads of times(driven to the MAX with Lamm 2.1's though)I believe Jtinn is probably right on the money.I never liked the sub's blend,as these little GEMS are really special.Why mess up the magic.Working well is one thing.Greatness is another.The 3.2 is a great design,and having heard them in a perfect set-up,I DID think there was a sub present,when there was NOT!!My own program material(LP and CD)as well.....CLASSICS!!!!

Best of luck!!
mixalis OP
34 posts
 
thanx sirspeedy!!!
is there anybody who thinks that a sub could give me i want...???a touch of weight...????live concert feeling,more slam on tympani...????
without losing the magic,the coherence...????
where r the owners....?????;)
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norfish
75 posts
 
I have only heard the 3.2's once at a dealer in San Diego, but I was predisposed to like them after all the positive press. They fit my bill exactly: great on acoustic music, beautiful timbre, wonderful soundstage.

When I finally got to hear them, I was very surprised. I put on a Coleman Hawkins quartet CD and if I hadn't known better, would have thought that Hawk was playing an alto instead of a tenor. There was just no bottom end or body to the instrument. For my money, a tenor better sound like a tenor or its not going to happen.

Maybe a sub would help, but the dealer was quite honest and said that even adding a sub to the Kharma's would not provide the body that was missing. He admitted that this speaker just would not work with my priorities.

Randy
mixalis OP
34 posts
 
hhehe...ok Randy its not THAT bad....lol
what im talking here is just a bit more weight......
im even thinking maybe a speaker and i/c cable would be the answer...
maybe valhala are a little bit lean for the kharmas....which is not the fuller sounding speaker in this world.....
any opinions from owners..???
tuboo
93 posts
 
The Valhalla is indeed a bit on the lean and dry side.
i would surely not match this with the Kharma 3,2.
The CRM 3,2 is a magical gem indeed, but if you want dynamics slam and a feeling of power with all the good things that the Kharma's do buy a used Talon Firebird !
it's a pity that the Talon factory seems to be out of business, but the Firebird is an amazing experience.
If you feel the need to add subwoofers to your CRM 3,2 buy two.
my experience though, but a second sub really is way to go no matter what system.
For that money though you get into Talon Firebird Diamond territory or the bigger Kharma CRM three way.
i like the CRM 3,2 big time mind you.
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