Speakers Like Merlin VSM?

Wellfed:

Information is welcome and can be provided without personal taunts in response to opinions. Comments like "I know the guy you visited", "By not liking my product you are being unfair to the host" and "I know what he thinks of *your* gear" hardly constitute the kind of "information" I desire or require from manufacturers.

A'gon provides hot link to manufacturers' websites, emails, phone numbers, etc. I have nothing against manufacturers posting an informational post (clarifying data, parameters, etc) without stifling the exchange of opinions. However, most simply do not have the maturity and temperament to play this role and their attempts don't work out. Recently one manufacturer (not Bobby) started a new thread and began by telling the readers he feels like saying "screw you all"; A'gon wisely deleted the entire thread. I have great respect for people like Salk, Tyler, etc who use various channels to provide any information you wish thoroughly and promptly but stay away from these discussions.

Every person who selects a speaker does so because he prefers it to ten others. We can hardly expect a healthy discussion group if it included owners or paid employees from those ten companies ready to pounce on any expression of this preference.

aktchi,
my comments were really down played and far more fair minded than his pointed ones were. and i never made any comment about him not liking my product. i clearly told him i do not care.
if you think that a person should just be able to say what they want...period then you should not react to the comments made to the contrary. if you don't like it, don't read it or get involved. it matters not that i am whatever because we do not have different rules governing our behavior.
knowing the difference between right and wrong is not immature. i strongly suggest that you read my last two posts many times over and think about the fact that if 100 people read them, over 85% of the people would agee with me. if you want it to rest, please initiate!
bobby

Bobbyapalkovic: You seem to think that because i am a manufacturer i should have different rules governing my behavior or somehow act accordingly.

We may have an honest difference of perspective, but precisely, in fact I actually do think so. Apparenty so do most manufacturers you and I might respect, because they provide information but do not participate in these exchanges.

I am afraid that this is a free country and if you say something offensive (imho) and i take exception to it, i will respond, manufacturer or not.

Freedom does not force maturity or wisdom. Those are still optional. From saints to sinners and everyone in between, they all have the same freedoms, but use them differently.

i have met david berning only once and he was one of the quietest, softest and kindest gentleman that i have ever met. he is also absolutely brilliant as all of his designs indicate and someone to be respected. he is so soft spoken that he would never stick up for himself on this forum..

Have you considered the possibility that besides being soft and kind, he is simply a wiser and more mature person, who knows when to talk and when to stay quiet? That he lets his product speak for itself and gives everyone trying them their personal space to think and go back and forth without interference? That you could learn something from people like him?

Aktchi is hitting the nail on the head time and again!! However, the Bobby P is really being extremely immature in this thread. He didn't learn anything from Berning! I hope that all viewing this thread can easily this!!

Bobby P: it would really be best if you terminated posting on this thread. You are making a fool of yourself in spades!
My opinion of the amp remains what it was & your strong-arming me will not change it. Yes, it is my opinion & it remains different from yours. I am entitled it to & you are entitled to yours. if I say something bad about the amp, you DO NOT NEED TO GO ON THE OFFENSIVE AGAINST ME. What you need to do is consider my opinion contrary to yours & move on with your life.

You very little about that listening session & so DON'T TELL ME WHAT I HEARD that day. OK?!

You have a good weekend too.

Bobby, I have never responded to any of your threads since I am not a Merlin owner. However, I have always been amazed at your graciousness as a manufacturer and the gentlemanly manner in how you have conducted yourself, both here and on AA. I see your participation in this thread no differently.

Bombaywalla has banged on the Berning for some time and he continues to do so. Just take it all with a grain of salt. Obviously, something was amiss in the system in which he heard the Berning. Do a search and look at all of the raves for the Berning and then look at all of the knocks on the Berning. It's no contest. The knocks are miniscule to the point of almost being non-existent.

As an example, another prolific poster on the 'Gon said he could never rid his Berning of high-frequency glare so he sold his ZH270. I had the same problem with my ZH270 and was beginning to think he was right. On a whim, I decided to try new IC's that I had seen advertised a lot. Lo and behold the glare vanished and my system took a huge leap forward overall. I never would have believed it because my old IC's were $$$ and very highly regarded. After changing my IC's, I clearly get why everyone raves about the ZH270.

But more importantly, the poster who ragged on the Berning and continues to do so was using the EXACT SAME IC's as my old IC's! The high-frequency glare wasn't from the ZH270, but rather from the IC's that we both had been using. To this day the guy is clueless because he sold the Berning before SELLING HIS IC's.

Bobby, the way I see it is if 99 people out of 100 love something and I am the only one who doesn't, then that leaves me with two choices. I can continue to be a moron and say that I am right and everyone else is wrong or I can step back and ask myself if I could be wrong. (And I usually am, BTW :)