Klipsch KLF-20 vs. Tyler Talyo 7U?


Here are specs.
KLF-20:
frequency : 34Hz-20kHz±3dB
power handling : 200 watts maximum continuous (800 watts peak)
sensitivity : 100dB @ 1watt/1meter
nominal impedance : 8 ohms
weight: 95 lb each
price: $1499

Taylo 7U:
35-20k, 4 ohm, 92db, 25-200 watts, 87 lb each, $3250

Similarities are the frequece range, power handling, and weight.
Big differences on sensitivity, impedance, and price.

I think KLF-20 is one of the best speakers in its price. Taylo Ref monitor seems to be one of the best in its league, but 7U would be even better. So, I would assume that 7U would be decisively better speaker than KLF-20, but I just cannot imagin unless I listen to them.

Has anyone listened to these two speakers? Any verdict? Am I right in assuming that 7U would be with all the goodies the Ref monitor has and would work far better in a bigger room?
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A 50 watt integrated tube amp will drive the 7Us just fine. That said, Tyler speakers in general are very revealing, so while a 50 watt integrated will drive them fine, the model of that 50 watter will most likely make a difference as to getting the most out of the 7Us. As for Bartokfan's comments, I will respectfully disagree on a couple things...

The 7Us are not the same speaker as the Thors (although they do share some of the same drivers). The crossovers are different and the internal design is not quite the same either. As for the tweeter, IMO the Millenium tweeter is on par with the Revelator, but no better (and the Revelator actually costs more). The Revelator is a bit more detailed, while the Millenium is a bit more natural sounding. It really is a tie to my ears, and will be more determined by your personal preferences than anything else -- both are exceptional. I have Tyler speakers with both versions of the tweeters and both implementations sound tremendous. Ty will indeed swap the Scanspeak for the SEAS in the 7Us (or any of his other speakers) if you prefer the Millenium, and tweak the crossover to match accordingly for no extra charge for the swap, BTW.

---Dave
Many thanks for the reply.
My amp is Yaqin MC10L. They sell in ebay at around $450 ~ $600. It is rated 52WPC at 8 ohm, but appears more like 40WPC. It has connectors for both 8 ohm and 4 ohm speakers.

I see more and more Chinese made tube amps are coming and more and more audiphiles in Europe and USA are trying them out and have very good reviews on them.

I talked to Ty and he told me that 50Watt tube amp would be able to drive 4ohm 92dB speakers at normal listening level without a problem.

I am a newbie and don't know much about those crossovers.
Overall, I feel that it is worth a try. I will give a shot as soon as I get enough $$$ on my hands.

Many thanks for all your opinion.
Bartok,
How does your post address Ihcho's original questions:

1.Has anyone listened to these two speakers?
2.Any verdict?
3.Am I right in assuming that 7U would be with all the goodies the Ref monitor has and would work far better in a bigger room?

He didn't ask about your amp and/or speakers. I'm surprised you didn't mention Cayin.
Ok, so you already have the KLF-20's it sounds like.
Yamaha and Klipsch by many are not considered the best synergy combo and the Yamaha by many seem to say it is too bright for Klipsch. I think your biggest improvement would come from going with something on the lines of Rotel that many say goes excellent with Klipsch and leans slightly towards the warmer side that goes very well with Klipsch speakers. I would look into changing that side of things for the biggest improvements! You have great speakers with the KLF-20's and they are really hard to beat for even 2 or 3 times the cost. You have great speakers already. Look into a different amplication for largest improvements and if you want to take things from there later.... you could try updating the crossovers in the KLF-20's like Vman71 suggest if you feel you need the changes, just get Vman71 to list out in detail for you what changes you will hear of improvements and weigh them against what you are after in a speaker and see if it fits for you. Again, Good Luck! :)
I own many Klipsch speakers and am very fond of Klipsch as they are great speakers for hearing the details and very dynamic speakers and gives the real true sense of being LIVE and REAL as if you are there listening to the music. They are not polite or laid back speakers, so if you like polite such speakers than Klipsch may not be for you.

I own two sets of Klipsch KLF-20 speakers. One set has the (2001 model) original Klipsch stock crossovers and the other set has (1996 model) changed updated crossovers done by the previous owner of the speakers that I purchased from a Klipsch forum member who had the crossovers done by one of the well known guys there that do great quality crossover work. I am the original owner of the 2001 model and have not changed the crossovers in that model and will probably leave them all original Klipsch.

In audio, as one learns, it is all subjective. I have learned that for some, sonic improvements can be viewed as HUGE, Night and Day, Big Improvement! For others it can be small sonic improvements, or not much different. That's why I like to get a detailed technical evaluation that is complete to really sort things out logically to weed out over stated dramatic hyped up statements to the real true facts of improvements.

Vman71, to his ears is a true believer in changing crossovers for such improvements. I'm not doubting him on what he believes or hears but what I do know is that making a statement as
"upgrading the crossover networks are an absolute must" is where I strongly disagree! This sort of statement leaves one to believe that in order for the speakers to sound any good at all, then one must change the crossovers and this is too far from truth.

Klipsch generally makes good quality crossovers that sound great in original stock form right out of the box, so what I am saying the KLF-20's are great speakers and you can run them just fine with the stock crossovers and they sound great that way, until then when you feel the need to have the crossovers brought to the next level and have the extra $$$ to do so, you can do it then but it's definitely NOT an "absolute must" to do so right away. Take your time, listen and enjoy the stock klipsch crossovers for a while if you don't have the $$$ right away or even if you feel the stock crossovers are fine for you. I'm just saying it is not an "absolute must" that you do anything with the crossovers right away! They are good to go as they are, that's why Klipsch is so well known and liked, because they do make great sounding speakers.

I just wanted to give you some honest advice on it if you decide to get the speakers. I really don't see how you wouldn't love the Klipsch KLF-20's because they are great speakers and I've owned many different kinds of speakers, and still do, but Klipsch speakers still remain one of my most favorite speakers because of the live, real, dynamic, and you are there presentation that Klipsch gives you. If these are the qualities you are after, Klipsch is for you!

Good Luck!