Klipsch KLF-20 vs. Tyler Talyo 7U?

Many thanks for the reply.
My amp is Yaqin MC10L. They sell in ebay at around $450 ~ $600. It is rated 52WPC at 8 ohm, but appears more like 40WPC. It has connectors for both 8 ohm and 4 ohm speakers.

I see more and more Chinese made tube amps are coming and more and more audiphiles in Europe and USA are trying them out and have very good reviews on them.

I talked to Ty and he told me that 50Watt tube amp would be able to drive 4ohm 92dB speakers at normal listening level without a problem.

I am a newbie and don't know much about those crossovers.
Overall, I feel that it is worth a try. I will give a shot as soon as I get enough $$$ on my hands.

Many thanks for all your opinion.

Bartok,
How does your post address Ihcho's original questions:

1.Has anyone listened to these two speakers?
2.Any verdict?
3.Am I right in assuming that 7U would be with all the goodies the Ref monitor has and would work far better in a bigger room?

He didn't ask about your amp and/or speakers. I'm surprised you didn't mention Cayin.

Ok, so you already have the KLF-20's it sounds like.
Yamaha and Klipsch by many are not considered the best synergy combo and the Yamaha by many seem to say it is too bright for Klipsch. I think your biggest improvement would come from going with something on the lines of Rotel that many say goes excellent with Klipsch and leans slightly towards the warmer side that goes very well with Klipsch speakers. I would look into changing that side of things for the biggest improvements! You have great speakers with the KLF-20's and they are really hard to beat for even 2 or 3 times the cost. You have great speakers already. Look into a different amplication for largest improvements and if you want to take things from there later.... you could try updating the crossovers in the KLF-20's like Vman71 suggest if you feel you need the changes, just get Vman71 to list out in detail for you what changes you will hear of improvements and weigh them against what you are after in a speaker and see if it fits for you. Again, Good Luck! :)

I own many Klipsch speakers and am very fond of Klipsch as they are great speakers for hearing the details and very dynamic speakers and gives the real true sense of being LIVE and REAL as if you are there listening to the music. They are not polite or laid back speakers, so if you like polite such speakers than Klipsch may not be for you.

I own two sets of Klipsch KLF-20 speakers. One set has the (2001 model) original Klipsch stock crossovers and the other set has (1996 model) changed updated crossovers done by the previous owner of the speakers that I purchased from a Klipsch forum member who had the crossovers done by one of the well known guys there that do great quality crossover work. I am the original owner of the 2001 model and have not changed the crossovers in that model and will probably leave them all original Klipsch.

In audio, as one learns, it is all subjective. I have learned that for some, sonic improvements can be viewed as HUGE, Night and Day, Big Improvement! For others it can be small sonic improvements, or not much different. That's why I like to get a detailed technical evaluation that is complete to really sort things out logically to weed out over stated dramatic hyped up statements to the real true facts of improvements.

Vman71, to his ears is a true believer in changing crossovers for such improvements. I'm not doubting him on what he believes or hears but what I do know is that making a statement as
"upgrading the crossover networks are an absolute must" is where I strongly disagree! This sort of statement leaves one to believe that in order for the speakers to sound any good at all, then one must change the crossovers and this is too far from truth.

Klipsch generally makes good quality crossovers that sound great in original stock form right out of the box, so what I am saying the KLF-20's are great speakers and you can run them just fine with the stock crossovers and they sound great that way, until then when you feel the need to have the crossovers brought to the next level and have the extra $$$ to do so, you can do it then but it's definitely NOT an "absolute must" to do so right away. Take your time, listen and enjoy the stock klipsch crossovers for a while if you don't have the $$$ right away or even if you feel the stock crossovers are fine for you. I'm just saying it is not an "absolute must" that you do anything with the crossovers right away! They are good to go as they are, that's why Klipsch is so well known and liked, because they do make great sounding speakers.

I just wanted to give you some honest advice on it if you decide to get the speakers. I really don't see how you wouldn't love the Klipsch KLF-20's because they are great speakers and I've owned many different kinds of speakers, and still do, but Klipsch speakers still remain one of my most favorite speakers because of the live, real, dynamic, and you are there presentation that Klipsch gives you. If these are the qualities you are after, Klipsch is for you!

Good Luck!

JK,

Since you own two sets of KLF-20’s, one stock and one with upgraded xovers, it would have made sense for you to comment on what you think the differences are between the two. It would also have made sense for you to describe your room size and system to give some perspective on your comments.

You say “That's why I like to get a detailed technical evaluation that is complete to really sort things out logically to weed out over stated dramatic hyped up statements to the real true facts of improvements.” K.I.S.S. – Keep it simple stupid…..it either sounds better or it doesn’t. Obviously, you don’t read/belong to the Klipsch forum, because you would have read/known that EVERYONE who has upgraded their Klipsch xovers, recommends upgrading Klipsch xovers because of the sonic improvements. They even go as far as saying “you haven’t heard Klipsch until you’ve upgraded the xovers.” When it’s a unanimous statement like that, that speaks volumes. So it’s not just my ears.

I took the time to familiarize myself with my KLF-20’s in stock form for 4 years, so I know how good they are in stock form. I then spent my personal time and money to upgrade the internals, which (since I did the work) know how cheap the parts are and that those cheap parts will hold this speaker back from their full potential. So let me make this clear for you, the KLF-20’s sound very good in stock form but until you upgrade the xovers, you will never hear the full potential of these speakers.

You say “Klipsch generally makes good quality crossovers that sound great in original stock form right out of the box.” If that was the case, then why do the majority of people on the Klipsch forum upgrade their stock xovers? That is because the stock xovers use very cheap parts, plain and simple. Now, do they sound good in stock form, well that depends on many things and is very subjective. Overall, yes they do sound good in stock form and many people could live with them that way. For the people who want to get the most out of these speakers and take them from good to great, you have to upgrade the xovers.

That is factual and honest advice, from a person who has owned these speakers in stock and upgraded form; from a person who has taken the time to verify and research the quality of components used in the stock xover networks and carefully select better replacement parts with higher performance capabilities.