A Bright Pair of Watt Puppys

And have you tried (are you able to) putting the speakers on the long wall?

Wilson suggests that you sit 1.2x away from the speakers, where x=distance between the speakers. Seems like a golden triangle or something. Anyway, the speakers are about 6.5' apart Colopilot. Will have to try rearranging things and moving the speaks closer to the side wall, ie. about 8-9' apart.

Probably would have done all this already, if I had the time. However Colonel Patten (wife) and a 10 month old who can't sleep both keep me busy. Any suggestions on how to get a hyper baby to sleep? Oops, wrong forum...
/Lee

Hey, maybe it's the loud speakers! Problem solved.

Oh yes, it's that simple. "It's the loud speakers". That's why hundreds of people have bought and loved Wilson Watt/Puppies. We must all be deaf.

Hey... sounds like you need someone to send your new speakers to.. :-)

If you have not heard of the room voicing procedure that David Wilson has coined, you might want to look into it.

Essentially, you have two choices when setting up your room. Defining where your room wants your listening and speaker positions, or (like most of our wives demand) establishing a listening position, and then figuring out exactly where your speakers want to be, and then treating your room to clean up the rest. Simple so far (at least to say).

So...given that your listening position is likely fixed, the next step is to voice your room relative to that listening position. The fist step gives you a smal box within which you fine tune your speaker placement. Without any technology aid (but someone with good listening skills), have that person sit in your listening position, while you do the manual work, or vice versa. Start from the wall behind where you expect your speakers to be placed, in front of the listener.... about 3 feet out from the adjacent wall (you'll do this for both left and right sides). SLowly begin talking in a monotone while walking towards the listener. At the first point the listener notices a decernable difference in your voices tone, mark the floor. Then continue from there until the listener again notices a discernable difference. That should define the front and back of the box within which you'll adjust your speaker placement (it's usally about 2 ft max). Then, to define the sides of the box, start speaking and walking from the back of the box from the adjacent wall. Marking the points where your voice tonality changes. Do that for the front and back markers you had previously done. The listener should have their eyes closed, and there shouldn't be any other background noise, so that the listener can concentrate.

I did this procedure in my theater with my daughter as the listener (she plays the flute so has a good sense of sound). Placing hte speakers within that box immediately reduced the beaming that you appear to be describing.

The next step is to address room resonances that arer likely muddying the bass so much that any artculation is impossible to determine. I'd suggest going to the ASC site and to do some reading. There are a lot of ways to treat eh room (both electronically and physically). But without understanding what you are treating, you'll be wasting your time (and likely money). A well setup room with some basic treatment for dealing with bass frequencies will make all the difference (ridiculous diferences you can't imagine).

SOooo...if all that sounds way to complicated... i'll send you my shipping info.. i've been lusting after some wilsons (watt puppies 6 or greaster or sophias) since '99...

BTW... my system is krell (HTS 7.1) driving plinius (a pair of SA250's) driving martin logan (ReQuests). I have a tower of 16" tube traps in each corner, corner traps (front and sides), and some sound planks (judiciouslly placed on the side walls). I bought all the sound treatments used on 'gon.