Jazz for aficionados

*****Rok, I'm not sure we're communicating when we talk about "Blues", because I never liked what we called "gut bucket" blues. As a matter of fact we're talking about a whole different culture of people, not just music. Many people who like "gut bucket" blues don't seem to be aware of that.*******

The Blues is that music tha seems to have started in the Mississippi Delta. It gave rise to, at the very least, Jazz, R&B and Rock & Roll.

BTW, The blues is what was missing from the polish thingy.

'Gut Bucket'???? never heard that term before. Several 'types' of blues were 'invented' by the music industry, so that more wannabes could win Grammys. Otherwise John Lee Hooker won win them all. :)

Cheers

******"Music appreciation of the 'high end' seems to stop at 'Kind of Blue', and then only if it's an 'audiophile' pressing." If I hear that mentioned one more time I'm going to have twins.********

Sorry. It falls under the 'Sad but True' category.
But don't take my word for it. There is entire thread going on now about just one tune: Kind of Blue.
Truth is stranger than fiction.

Cheers

Rok, what I mentioned in regard to blues and jazz, is more related to culture than to music. Check the Bio's of Elmore James, John Lee Hooker, Little Walter, and Sonny Boy Williamson, not their musical Bio, but childhood Bio. Those guys had some hard times, and they played in what was called "bucket of blood" clubs early in their careers. They were called that because of the bloody fights that often broke out in those places as a result of the (uneducated is putting it mildly) clientele. The jazz culture and the blues culture are as different as night and day in regard to the people, I'm talking 40's and 50's. All of it's very interesting, but not a subject for a music thread.

Enjoy the music.

Rok2id, FWIW not only is my knowledge of Jazz poor, my use of English and my editing skills are even worse.

My use of the word 'you' was inappropriate. I should have used the word 'one'. My post was not so much about you at all, although I can see why you might have thought so. My apologies.

I would agree that it can be fun, and even helpful, to participate in 'conversations' about things one feels enthused and/or knowledgeable. But, when all is said and done, I think it is hard to draw value from posts unless one knows the subject and the persons who are participating. Nothing new there I think.

With music, as with most things 'audio' lots of folks form their opinions based on little more than personal exposure (usually to recordings at home) and/or 'internet gossip' and post them in declarative sentences as if they were based on fact and beyond dispute. Not so common in music threads I think as audio, but it exists non the less. For example, I love to listen to jazz at home. I've got a large collection, but it is all based on the music by artists I like to listen to. I could tell you that I liked Charlie Haden's performances greatly, but if you asked me why, perhaps as compared to the performances by Ray Brown, probably the best explanation I could come up with would be that I find Charlie's music more laid back, Browns more aggressive and forward, Haden's music more contemporary and Brown's more from an earlier era. So, when all is said and done if I were to participate in a thread about Brown and Haden to my way of thinking, if I were actually to do that, I really would have nothing of value to contribute, unless of course for what ever reason you specifically asked me. So I usually do not contribute in threads about jazz. Mine is just another opinion, how boring is that.

FWIW, my main interest is in classical music. While still fairly ignorant, I know just enough to enjoy participating in those threads in which I do have considerable exposure, and some knowledge, so long as the thread is not just about personal favorites and the best of whatever.

******Mine is just another opinion, how boring is that.****

Seems as if you are waiting for some GURU to come along and tell you what to like and why you should like it!!
When it comes to what music you like, what could be more important than your opinion based on personal experience. This is music, not gear. No all knowing oracle here.

Besides, people do not run out to buy whatever you recommend, but they might youtube it, to see how thay like it.

Cheers