Why are hi-end active monitors not more popular?


I was just curious why more home systems don't utilize active monitors from hi-end manufacturers. Dynaudio, Focal, PMC and Genelec to name a few seem to have very high value offerings that, on the surface, appear taylor made for a simple system. Just add a cd player with volume and balanced outs or a hi-end dac connected to a music server. Pros and cons are appreciated. A home consumer version seems to have already made it to market in the NHT XDs system. I haven't heard the NHT system and would appreciate your comments.
ghasley
Other things being equal, active speakers do have advantages. If designed properly, the amplifiers are optimized for the speakers and active crossovers have various advantages over passive crossovers: in particular better control over the woofer and superior dynamic range.

But other things are rarely equal; that is, there's not many models with the identical drivers and cabinets that come in active and passive versions. And that means when we compare active and passive speakers, we are rarely just judging the difference between active and passive; we're almost always also judging different drivers and cabinets as well.

Plus most active monitors only accept balanced inputs, which, again, restricts the types of preamp you can use with them; this alone reduces their attractiveness to listeners.

Having said that, I've got a pair of active Tannoy monitors (AMS-12A) with which I'm very satisfied: 12-inch dual concentric driver, electronic crossover and two 180 W rms amplifiers in each 70 L cabinet. They're certainly an order of magnitude better than the passive version (System 12 DMT II).

But, again, even in this case, the active version uses slightly different drivers and cabinets, so it's still, to some degree, a case of comparing apples and oranges.

The best way to do a fair comparison between active and passive speakers is to listen to a pair of speakers passively and actively biamped. But that has its own complications: few off-the-rack active crossovers, even expensive ones, offer the same topology as the manufacturer's passive crossovers.

Cheers,

Joel.
Hi Joel,
I agree completely with what you are saying when our aim is to compare methodologies or design philosophy (i.e. active vs. passive) against one another.

At the same time, I think it's important to note that we make larger decisions on an ultimate solution based on the overall presentation/effectiveness of the whole package - (i.e. Duntech Sovereigns vs. Quested HQ210-As, B&Ws vs. Von Schweikerts, or even Polks vs. Definitives) which, of course includes such sub-choices & evaluations as design philosophy & implementation.

Now, all that is just a fancy-schmancy way of saying there's no 'right' answer and in the end, we'll pick what sounds (and for some measures) the best to us for our application.

Cheers & Be Well,
C
Active "done right" would be an option to turn whatever passive speaker you like into an active version.
Any theoretical advantages of active mean nothing if you do not like the basic sound quality.
I have been using a pair of Dynaudio BM5A for about 1 year now. Bel Canto DAC3 with a DVD player as a transport. These speakers are amazing sound quality for the price. Clarity and details without harshness. Not much bass of course but I don't need it in a bedroom system.

I got mine from a pro shop (Guitar Center). Easily one of the best choice.

I am curious about ATC though. I wonder how much improvement there is.
I am curious about ATC though. I wonder how much improvement there is.

As with everything there is diminishing returns at the higher end, YMMV. The bigger active ATC's will certainly play louder and cleaner and that is for sure...the shock and awe and the "you are there" factor is amazing compared to anything else I have heard (it sounds completely effortless at any volume).

However, if you listen to light classical at modest volumes then many are totally content with the two way ATC SCM Active 20's (despite in theory that the biggest benefits of active tend to come in spades when you use a three way and separate that nasty power hungry woofer from the delicate mid range where your ear is so highly sensitive to IMD distortion).

So if you like music for its dynamics and shear exhilaration (as well as all the other audiophile qualities) then I would say the bigger active ATC's are worth it. If you live in an apartment or don't care for realistic live sound levels then forget it - like an F1 car in downtown traffic most of your investment will remain under exploited. If you check the client list and history you will see that bigger active ATC's got their success as big studio main monitors used to impress the socks off of clients (musicians)...