Marty and Shardone,
Thanks for the ongoing discussion! It helps educate me before I spend a large amount of money.
The biggest concern with these innovative speakers that you both share is the missing soundstage. I gather you are referring to the lack of the illusion of the musicians laid out properly in space in front of you. I wonder if that flaw is the price one pays for the benefits of the Acoustic Lens technology? This technology allows for a much wider Sweet Spot but perhaps the sweet spot we get isnt as sweet as it would be in a more conventional speaker.
Being new to High End Audio, I cant say that Ive developed my skills at detecting the soundstage yet; but it must greatly enhance the sense of being there. To help accomplish this, do Audiophiles always try to sit at precisely the right spot when they are doing active listening?
You both also complained about congestion/compression and congested/cluttered in upper midrange. Please help me understand. Im guessing that you mean that in parts of the music the differences between instruments might blur, which makes it hard to differentiate or even identify the instruments?
Funny that you should end the last post by writing I want to hear the sound as close as possible to what is on the source...additional colorations, no matter how pleasing, are something I try to avoid. I spent a couple hours in the afternoon listening to the B&W 800Ds in a very fine listening room. The words that kept coming to my mind were natural and real. Perhaps those are the speakers I will buy
But I remain deeply interested in the Beolab 5s. One variable that has undoubtedly had a big impact on all of our listening experiences was poor listening rooms. It would seem to me that the ideal next step would be to get the Beolab 5s and the B&W800Ds into my listening room at home, preferably at the same time for some extended A:B comparisons.
Is that a reasonable next step?
Thanks for the ongoing discussion! It helps educate me before I spend a large amount of money.
The biggest concern with these innovative speakers that you both share is the missing soundstage. I gather you are referring to the lack of the illusion of the musicians laid out properly in space in front of you. I wonder if that flaw is the price one pays for the benefits of the Acoustic Lens technology? This technology allows for a much wider Sweet Spot but perhaps the sweet spot we get isnt as sweet as it would be in a more conventional speaker.
Being new to High End Audio, I cant say that Ive developed my skills at detecting the soundstage yet; but it must greatly enhance the sense of being there. To help accomplish this, do Audiophiles always try to sit at precisely the right spot when they are doing active listening?
You both also complained about congestion/compression and congested/cluttered in upper midrange. Please help me understand. Im guessing that you mean that in parts of the music the differences between instruments might blur, which makes it hard to differentiate or even identify the instruments?
Funny that you should end the last post by writing I want to hear the sound as close as possible to what is on the source...additional colorations, no matter how pleasing, are something I try to avoid. I spent a couple hours in the afternoon listening to the B&W 800Ds in a very fine listening room. The words that kept coming to my mind were natural and real. Perhaps those are the speakers I will buy
But I remain deeply interested in the Beolab 5s. One variable that has undoubtedly had a big impact on all of our listening experiences was poor listening rooms. It would seem to me that the ideal next step would be to get the Beolab 5s and the B&W800Ds into my listening room at home, preferably at the same time for some extended A:B comparisons.
Is that a reasonable next step?